2 250 watt metal halide on 110 gallon???

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mdb_talon;3834603; said:
Lot of factors go into that. I have 2x250 and still have to use heaters for my reef tank. In the summer without a heater it gets to about 78 max. In the winter without a heater though it drops to upper 60's overnight if I dont have the heater. Far from needing a chiller in my case.

Going to depend on how warm his house is, whether tank has glass top or open, if he has a sump and what water volume is, etc.

You are correct, I was wrong in saying "definitely", I should have said "probably".

I ran 2x175W MH and 2x160W VHO on my 135 with a sump and I had to run a chiller to keep it under 80 degrees. When I converted the tank to FW I got rid of the MH and was able to do away with the chiller. I did have a full hood, so I'm sure that contributed somewhat.
 
so heres how my tank is setup, the tank doesnt have a hood, i have two glass lids that cover half of the openings, and i keep my apt about 68-70 degrees. also i dont have a sump, fx5 and eheim 2217. i havent seen any double 75 watt mh fixtures. how about two of the viper clamp lamps at 70 watts each on the tank?
 
I have mh for the same reason, that awesome shimmer. As everyone has said 250w will be way too much. I've used two 175w on a 120g hanging about 12" over the tank. I currently have three 150w on a 220 which is 30" tall and it's great. I have two 70w on a 180 and found it's plenty bright for the low light plants I have and for me to enjoy the fish. With the 70w's I mounted them at the ends of the canopy and let them shine across the tank. That allowed me to use 2 instead of 3 to cover the 6'. The general rule is 1 mh every 2'. There is some slight shadowing in the upper center but I like to play with lighting/shadow effects so it doesn't bother me. I've found that mounting the lights at the ends and letting them shine across the tank enhances the shimmer. Also, the shimmer is caused at the surface so you'll need powerheads or filter outflow under each light to agitate the surface or you'll have a bright tank and no shimmer. For no plants go with the 10k bulbs they are clean crisp white light. Some fish look good under 14k (slight blue tint) and 20k (crisp clear blue) but the bulbs are expensive so it's a crap shoot if you can't see them under those lights first. I'd stay away from 100w bulbs as they can be hard to find unless you are looking for a yellow light (3.2k). The most common aquaria bulb watts are 70, 150, 175, 250, 400. Also, since you're FW you don't need to change the bulbs every year. They will some loose intensity and the color will move to the yellow side as they age but it will be a slow change. I generally don't change them until they burn out or I want to change the color temp (#K). Saltwater with corals is another story.

MH FTW!!!!
 
Danger_Chicken;3834928; said:
I have mh for the same reason, that awesome shimmer. As everyone has said 250w will be way too much. I've used two 175w on a 120g hanging about 12" over the tank. I currently have three 150w on a 220 which is 30" tall and it's great. I have two 70w on a 180 and found it's plenty bright for the low light plants I have and for me to enjoy the fish. With the 70w's I mounted them at the ends of the canopy and let them shine across the tank. That allowed me to use 2 instead of 3 to cover the 6'. The general rule is 1 mh every 2'. There is some slight shadowing in the upper center but I like to play with lighting/shadow effects so it doesn't bother me. I've found that mounting the lights at the ends and letting them shine across the tank enhances the shimmer. Also, the shimmer is caused at the surface so you'll need powerheads or filter outflow under each light to agitate the surface or you'll have a bright tank and no shimmer. For no plants go with the 10k bulbs they are clean crisp white light. Some fish look good under 14k (slight blue tint) and 20k (crisp clear blue) but the bulbs are expensive so it's a crap shoot if you can't see them under those lights first. I'd stay away from 100w bulbs as they can be hard to find unless you are looking for a yellow light (3.2k). The most common aquaria bulb watts are 70, 150, 175, 250, 400. Also if since you're FW you don't need to change the bulbs every year. They will loose intensity and the color will move to the yellow side as they age but it will be a slow change. I generally don't change them until they burn out or I want to change the color temp (#K). Saltwater with corals is another story.

MH FTW!!!!

ok sweet that makes alot of sense to put them at the ends of the tank. i have been wanting mh for a long time, now i ve got the pocket to do it. :naughty:
 
If you're electrically inclined you can build you're own for about $100ea. I made a DIY thread on it; an electrician banged me on a few things but if you read the thread you'll see his commnets on things to do different.
 
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