2 green terror males , one tank

[Jason_S]

should I worry that the green terrors would eventuall get large enough to attempt to eat the pictus? I was thinking that I green terror I got are currently too small (1 1/2 to 3 inches) so i would have approx 12 months to 1 1/2 yrs to move the pictus to my back-up 55 gallon tank if need be. what do you guys think of instead of going with 5 clown loaches just getting 3 clown loaches and 1 pink tail challeous (i think thats how its spelled)?

the only reason I suggested that is because silver dollars, clown loaches and pictus are all shoaling fishes. the more you have together the safer they feel, so imo keeping 2 larger shoals would be better than 3 smaller shoals.

 

[Greenterrorlover]

what would be the least size tank that you can keep two adult male green terrors, I understand that they are extremely territorial and would like an incite from someone who has actually kept them and what was the outcome?

55 gallon is the least I'm getting

 

[tiger15]

what would be the least size tank that you can keep two adult male green terrors, I understand that they are extremely territorial and would like an incite from someone who has actually kept them and what was the outcome?

Two is a bad number. You need a bigger tank to keep 2 than to keep 4 or more GTs. I was successful inkeeping 4 adult male GTs in a 75 for a long while until I lost one. With 3 left, I was still able to keep them together in a new but delicate power balance for a while. But with fewer fish to diffuse the aggression, the daily skirmish became more violent. At the end I had to break up the group knowing that the delicate balance could not last long.

GT is not extremely but only mildly or moderately territorial, depending on the strain. The reason I could keep multiple males in a 75 is that that my GT strain has mild temper and I grew them out from juvies in the same tank. Currently, I am keeping 2 pairs of adult GTs in my 125 and they have no aggression whatsoever because they were not the dominant fish . They were over powered by much larger 10-14" Vieja tankmates.

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[convict360]

Two is a bad number. You need a bigger tank to keep 2 than to keep 4 or more GTs. I was successful inkeeping 4 adult male GTs in a 75 for a long while until I lost one. With 3 left, I was still able to keep them together in a new but delicate power balance for a while. But with fewer fish to diffuse the aggression, the daily skirmish became more violent. At the end I had to break up the group knowing that the delicate balance could not last long.

GT is not extremely but only mildly or moderately territorial, depending on the strain. The reason I could keep multiple males in a 75 is that that my GT strain has mild temper and I grew them out from juvies in the same tank. Currently, I am keeping 2 pairs of adult GTs in my 125 and they have no aggression whatsoever because they were not the dominant fish . They were over powered by much larger 10-14" Vieja tankmates.

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awesome tank, the combination of clowns and GT's makes for some stunning colours

 

[Benno87]

Two is a bad number. You need a bigger tank to keep 2 than to keep 4 or more GTs. I was successful inkeeping 4 adult male GTs in a 75 for a long while until I lost one. With 3 left, I was still able to keep them together in a new but delicate power balance for a while. But with fewer fish to diffuse the aggression, the daily skirmish became more violent. At the end I had to break up the group knowing that the delicate balance could not last long.

GT is not extremely but only mildly or moderately territorial, depending on the strain. The reason I could keep multiple males in a 75 is that that my GT strain has mild temper and I grew them out from juvies in the same tank. Currently, I am keeping 2 pairs of adult GTs in my 125 and they have no aggression whatsoever because they were not the dominant fish . They were over powered by much larger 10-14" Vieja tankmates.

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Wow!!!! They are some awesome specimens there mate well done. How old? And what were you feeding them and how often? Those are 4 of the most beastly Gts I've ever seen.

 

[Stanzzzz7]

I think you need to assess the risks evolved in keeping two males together long term in anything under a 6x2x2.
Yes there will be situations where people have pulled it off and sometimes rules can be broken. In a 55 gallon more often than not at some point you will end up with a dead green terror.They will probably coexist quite peacefully until they reach 4 or 5 inch and then there will be trouble.
Temperament can be very variable in rivulatus, from down right nasty to laid back hippy.
The trouble is you won't know what yours will be like until they reach maturity.By then it may be too late.
you also have more chance of success keeping multiple rivulatus if you add them as juveniles all of the same size and let them grow together.
I have 1male and 5 females in a 7x2x2 and they all get on great.However if I were to add another male,I think there would be trouble.
Looking at the tanks shown above I can certainly see why you would want to try it as the fish look stunning.I do feel that more often than not in anything less than a 6x2x2 your asking for trouble.
Have you considered keeping a pair with a shoal of pictus.You can observe some fascinating behaviour and males during spawning attempts show some really dramatic colours.The catfish would make sure you were not over run with fry as they eat the eggs at night and your chances of a tank with no dead or battered Gt's is much higher.
If a 55 is the biggest tank available then I would chose another species like the blue acara to try it with.

 

[Greenterrorlover]

I think you need to assess the risks evolved in keeping two males together long term in anything under a 6x2x2.
Yes there will be situations where people have pulled it off and sometimes rules can be broken. In a 55 gallon more often than not at some point you will end up with a dead green terror.They will probably coexist quite peacefully until they reach 4 or 5 inch and then there will be trouble.
Temperament can be very variable in rivulatus, from down right nasty to laid back hippy.
The trouble is you won't know what yours will be like until they reach maturity.By then it may be too late.
you also have more chance of success keeping multiple rivulatus if you add them as juveniles all of the same size and let them grow together.
I have 1male and 5 females in a 7x2x2 and they all get on great.However if I were to add another male,I think there would be trouble.
Looking at the tanks shown above I can certainly see why you would want to try it as the fish look stunning.I do feel that more often than not in anything less than a 6x2x2 your asking for trouble.
Have you considered keeping a pair with a shoal of pictus.You can observe some fascinating behaviour and males during spawning attempts show some really dramatic colours.The catfish would make sure you were not over run with fry as they eat the eggs at night and your chances of a tank with no dead or battered Gt's is much higher.
If a 55 is the biggest tank available then I would chose another species like the blue acara to try it with.

Im getting a 75 with one JD and 4-5 roseline sharks and some other schooling fish maybe..

Any way to speed up tank cycling process?

 

[Greenterrorlover]

Two is a bad number. You need a bigger tank to keep 2 than to keep 4 or more GTs. I was successful inkeeping 4 adult male GTs in a 75 for a long while until I lost one. With 3 left, I was still able to keep them together in a new but delicate power balance for a while. But with fewer fish to diffuse the aggression, the daily skirmish became more violent. At the end I had to break up the group knowing that the delicate balance could not last long.

GT is not extremely but only mildly or moderately territorial, depending on the strain. The reason I could keep multiple males in a 75 is that that my GT strain has mild temper and I grew them out from juvies in the same tank. Currently, I am keeping 2 pairs of adult GTs in my 125 and they have no aggression whatsoever because they were not the dominant fish . They were over powered by much larger 10-14" Vieja tankmates.

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Nice green terrors!! Im getting JD's now I think, or just one green terror, either one with 4-5 roseline sharks and another schooling group maybe..

anyway to speed up the tank cycling process?