20+ Stingrays Dead in One Night (Calgary)

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I also live in Calgary and agree that the zoo is good. Going through alot of upgrades. However, this tank, at least while I was there, wasn't really monitored that I could notice. There was one person kind of hanging around watching people, but that's about it. I'm not sure how someone could have added something to the water, but that's more than likely what it was.
 
Neervana;1787248; said:
its horrible what happened, some ppl may get offended about what im about to say next, but its my own opinion: i dont think its right for zoos to keep animals in captivity like that and most of all to "trim" the rays just too keep ppl from getting hurt. if those rays had been in the wild, then nothing like this would have happened. maybe that hippo died as well from stress or something, but animals are not meant to be in captivity. if they are tank bred...thats another question. but if they are taken from the wild and imprisoned for our own enjoyment then thats not good. like this article i read about a massive ray that was captured, she soon gave birth to a pup after - probably because of stress, but now that pup is open to public attention, why cant they just leave her and her pup alone? this stuff isn't good.

I don't totally disagree with her. I love my fish as much as you guys love yours, and in no way I disagree that they are living creatures deserving a good life and care... but THEY ARE FISH, not tigers or bears or cats or bats ... fish. They possess intelligence and can get bored like any animal... but their intelligence is different. There is a huge difference between a bottle nose dolphin and a blue gourami.
A fish that is well housed will act normally, depict natural behaviour and spend little to no time pacing in their aquariums.
A dolphin in a pool at seaworld wil spend its days pacing and depicting highly stressed and abnormal behaviour, clearly showing that it is not well.
The same goes for most zoo animals that spend their days pacing endlessly the same way in their tiny cages. Its kinda hard to put a pride of lions in a cage big enough that will equate its natural territory size (which are miles and miles), and with a variety if live preys ect.. so they are put in less-than adequate cages.
Different creatures also have different requirements based on how intelligent ect they are, a tiger will be happy with little more than a large territory and preys to hunt... while a dolphin (with self-awareness) also needs to fufill needs of complex socialisation, feed their endless curiosity with daily discoveries, learn a fairly complex language, develop new hunting techniques, interact with all that is around it, swim hundreds of miles, get constant brain stimuli, ect... not quite what they get in a tiny pool at seaworld with millions of shouting people everyday and having to perform the same tricks day after day after day! Not surprising they often die within the first 2 years of captivity!! :irked:

Fish require an adequate territory, food, good water parameters, and entertainement too! Just not the same as other animals do! :)

I never see my betta pacing, its always carefully watching over its territory, checking out to see if things have changed, playing in the water filtration flow, foraging to find leftover shrimp pellets, watching my boyfriend at his computer, digging tunnels in the java moss, playing with the green moss-ball, watching the shrimps and many more! :) Because of this I believe I can safely assume that he is well in his "cage", but if he were to pace and show constant signs of innactivity and lack of interaction I would think twice about keeping him in those conditions, and would try to find a new home for him. ;)

Thats one of my biggest concern as someone who wishes to keep more fish, I don't want to know how many fish I can CRAM in a small 15 gallon, I need a fish that will be well in it.
I know myself! If the fish has nothing to do all day long in his little tank, than I will have no pleasure keeping it at all and start feeling real bad!:(
 
puffcrusader696;1797127; said:
well yeah but i dont think anyone inside the zoo would have done it. i mean why work at a zoo if you hate animals? and if it wasnt an animal rights activist whos off their rocker then who was it? a kid thinking it would be cool to put stuff in the tank to see what happens. either way i think the person should be feeling like $h!t right now.

Actually... (to pick on dolphins again because I have a weak spot for them for some reason), some dolphin trainers from aquatic parcs, once they had quit their job, admitted in an interview that they could not love these animals and work there.... the pain and conditions those animals go through are simply atrocious....

Actually, you might be interested to know that many captive dolphins in well known places such as seaworld and marineland have taken dolphins from pretty sick hunts. They showed pics of one of the worst hunt there was.... and there were dolphin trainers in their comercially-labelled diving suits present, in the middle of the of the captured dolphins. The trainers would choose the animals that looked young and not too damaged, while nearby dolphins tangled in nets were crying out in distress and drowning. :(
Many animals were getting crushed under the weight of the other ones, other dolphins were stranded on the shore and slowly loosing strengh after spending hours and hours under the hot weather... but the trainers never tried to help any of them out or anything! Its like they did not care seeing all these animals suffering, dieing and calling out in distress.... :(:screwy:

MANY animals die during the capture and shortly after it... but the trainers show no concern...:nilly:

Honestly, if I were to become a dolphin trainer, I love these animals soo mcuh that I don't see how I could not go insane or have a burn out seeing them in such conditions.... :nilly::nilly::nilly:


"The strangest thing of all is to see how well the dolphin trainers and fishermen get along. They are really not that different. In fact, it seems as if the dolphin trainers might as well be dolphin hunters. Their relationship with dolphins is based on heartless exploitation and a total lack of compassion for the dolphins' obvious suffering. The dolphin trainers see dolphins dying right in front of them, and they do nothing to help them. On the contrary, we saw them help the fishermen drag struggling dolphins into the killing lagoon. These dolphin trainers are clearly not the dolphins' friends, as they would have the public believe. They are the dolphins' worst nightmare. They killed several dolphins during the selection process, they tied them up with ropes and let them suffocate to death. They took mothers away from their babies, knowing that the babies have no chance of survival alone. I think that is what angers us the most: The direct involvement of dolphin trainers in this brutal slaughter."


Here is one of many sad sites... http://www.savejapandolphins.org/weblog2006.html
 
ceeej31;1823915; said:
i want one

go to St. Thomas in the carribean and buy one at the marriot frenchmans reef resort gift shop lol. i got mine like a month ago and found a use for it. but it still serves its purpose
 
Albel;1824062; said:
Actually... (to pick on dolphins again because I have a weak spot for them for some reason), some dolphin trainers from aquatic parcs, once they had quit their job, admitted in an interview that they could not love these animals and work there.... the pain and conditions those animals go through are simply atrocious....

Actually, you might be interested to know that many captive dolphins in well known places such as seaworld and marineland have taken dolphins from pretty sick hunts. They showed pics of one of the worst hunt there was.... and there were dolphin trainers in their comercially-labelled diving suits present, in the middle of the of the captured dolphins. The trainers would choose the animals that looked young and not too damaged, while nearby dolphins tangled in nets were crying out in distress and drowning. :(
Many animals were getting crushed under the weight of the other ones, other dolphins were stranded on the shore and slowly loosing strengh after spending hours and hours under the hot weather... but the trainers never tried to help any of them out or anything! Its like they did not care seeing all these animals suffering, dieing and calling out in distress.... :(:screwy:

MANY animals die during the capture and shortly after it... but the trainers show no concern...:nilly:

Honestly, if I were to become a dolphin trainer, I love these animals soo mcuh that I don't see how I could not go insane or have a burn out seeing them in such conditions.... :nilly::nilly::nilly:


"The strangest thing of all is to see how well the dolphin trainers and fishermen get along. They are really not that different. In fact, it seems as if the dolphin trainers might as well be dolphin hunters. Their relationship with dolphins is based on heartless exploitation and a total lack of compassion for the dolphins' obvious suffering. The dolphin trainers see dolphins dying right in front of them, and they do nothing to help them. On the contrary, we saw them help the fishermen drag struggling dolphins into the killing lagoon. These dolphin trainers are clearly not the dolphins' friends, as they would have the public believe. They are the dolphins' worst nightmare. They killed several dolphins during the selection process, they tied them up with ropes and let them suffocate to death. They took mothers away from their babies, knowing that the babies have no chance of survival alone. I think that is what angers us the most: The direct involvement of dolphin trainers in this brutal slaughter."


Here is one of many sad sites... http://www.savejapandolphins.org/weblog2006.html

sad but true :( no one cares about the destruction of all animal life. really one day the world is just gonna stop cuz so many animals are gone and the functioning balance will just tip and humans will be the cause and be paying the price for it.
 
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