I thought my ID was old. I was going to approach Guiness. HE is not the biggest in captivity, thought he was the oldest. I have had him 17 years, he was about 10" when I bought him, so I fugure he is about 20yrs old, 30" long. I had him in a custom made 100 gallon for 13 years. He is currently in a 200 gallon pond and still growing at 30". I also have a baby ID that is three years old, bought at an inch long, that is currently 7", in the custom tank. He is to small for the pond. They dont stop growing, they change how they grow. Taller, back arching, wider.