5 silvers in a 1000 gallon?
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i jus wanna kno why only 5 silvers? i have 3 in my tank. it takes long for them to get big. if it were my 1k gallon tank. i'd put like 30 silvers in side. n as they grow sell some off. but with 1k gallons i think i'd end up keepin like 10 adults atleast. i've seen people with 10 in like 600gal tanks.
There are a number of reasons ethnics...
The main one being personal choice and judgement. Most people like to dedicate 200 gallons per arowana...especially considering their aggression and size…
While a tank/pond as big as 1,000 gallons needs filtration to match, which can not always be matched. So such owners have to settle for less than rated filtration. This means he would not be able to go overboard on stocking, and stock to the same rate as you do for smaller tanks.
That is the two main reasons…there are loads of other smaller ones as well. Such as the cost of 30 silver arowanas! And then the cost of feeding as many!
I think most people agree that 6 was the wise number of arowanas for this size setup…am I right?
The main one being personal choice and judgement. Most people like to dedicate 200 gallons per arowana...especially considering their aggression and size…
While a tank/pond as big as 1,000 gallons needs filtration to match, which can not always be matched. So such owners have to settle for less than rated filtration. This means he would not be able to go overboard on stocking, and stock to the same rate as you do for smaller tanks.
That is the two main reasons…there are loads of other smaller ones as well. Such as the cost of 30 silver arowanas! And then the cost of feeding as many!
I think most people agree that 6 was the wise number of arowanas for this size setup…am I right?
agree smee lol. if u can afford a 1000gal tank, buying the fish to put in it should not be a problem. and again if u can afford a tank like this, and a filter system for a tank like this. feeding them should be the last of ur worries. expensive maybe but not one of ur worries when ur already dedicating urself to a tank of this size. at 10 bux a piece, 300 dollars on fish wont be anything compared to the amount he will spend on water, water changes n so forth. just my opinion. a 1000gal tank that aint even stocked will be boring as crap.
I see where you are coming from, and of course you need to be fully dedicated if you are going to set up a large tank, and that includes financially.
However, just because hard working sods like ourselves who are not in prime financial situations, save up for a long time to get a tank so large. It does not mean we have to have the money for top filtration and stocking and feeding.
You own two good sized silvers… so you will know how much they eat, so multiply one of their feeding habits by 30!
And why spend more money on something when you do not need to and can enjoy the fish just as much in less numbers? And at the same time, why go against our judgements of stocking just to make it more pleasing to look at. Having a bigger tank does not change the arowanas need for space in a happy cohabitation. Most people here agreed 200 gallons per arowana was good. Not too many people would agree on 33.33 gallons per arowana, regardless of tank size or filtration…
I feel that most would disagree with that. Nothing is better than looking at arowanas stocked properly in ample space. Without having to bump into tank mates or walls. In fact a few gracious arowanas would look better in perfect condition at full size, than 30 crammed arowanas not in peak condition. Numbers are not everything in this hobby…
However, just because hard working sods like ourselves who are not in prime financial situations, save up for a long time to get a tank so large. It does not mean we have to have the money for top filtration and stocking and feeding.
You own two good sized silvers… so you will know how much they eat, so multiply one of their feeding habits by 30!
And why spend more money on something when you do not need to and can enjoy the fish just as much in less numbers? And at the same time, why go against our judgements of stocking just to make it more pleasing to look at. Having a bigger tank does not change the arowanas need for space in a happy cohabitation. Most people here agreed 200 gallons per arowana was good. Not too many people would agree on 33.33 gallons per arowana, regardless of tank size or filtration…
I feel that most would disagree with that. Nothing is better than looking at arowanas stocked properly in ample space. Without having to bump into tank mates or walls. In fact a few gracious arowanas would look better in perfect condition at full size, than 30 crammed arowanas not in peak condition. Numbers are not everything in this hobby…
i understand and agree. but the hobby also consist of different taste in tank setups. im only 21, i couldn't afford to feed 30 aros lol. but my 2 take a chunk out of my pocket each month trust me. silvers, gars, piranhas = expensive to feed but i knew this b4 i bought the fish.
and maybe most people would disagree. but all u guys go off of books n what not when it comes to silver arowanas. yes silvers need 200gal of space but not at 3". it will be atleast 5 years into arowana keeping til they need the "suggested" 200gal of space per fish. keeping 5 lil 3" aro's in 1000gal of space would not only be weird, but a waste until that 5 year mark is reached. it will be atleast 3 years before the 30 aro's even look at tad bit cramped if at all. i personally think it would be an amazing sight.
and maybe most people would disagree. but all u guys go off of books n what not when it comes to silver arowanas. yes silvers need 200gal of space but not at 3". it will be atleast 5 years into arowana keeping til they need the "suggested" 200gal of space per fish. keeping 5 lil 3" aro's in 1000gal of space would not only be weird, but a waste until that 5 year mark is reached. it will be atleast 3 years before the 30 aro's even look at tad bit cramped if at all. i personally think it would be an amazing sight.
Indeed, totally agreed that such fish cost a small fortune to feed!
However i disagree with the book comment. Obviously everyone builds up knowledge from secondary research first. But i would like to think a lot of people on MKF quote from their own findings and experiences. And it has become common knowledge on here that 200 gallons is the appropriate volume per arowana (from experience).
Indeed, of course if the arowanas are small you could fit a huge amount in a 1,000 gallon.
But most people only buy the amount of fish that they can house once they mature. Most people do not have anywhere to offload 20 growing arowanas. Plus, from my experience and opinion (not a books), it is better to give a young fish its adult room from its early age.
This is really just a split of personal opinions ethnics.
However i disagree with the book comment. Obviously everyone builds up knowledge from secondary research first. But i would like to think a lot of people on MKF quote from their own findings and experiences. And it has become common knowledge on here that 200 gallons is the appropriate volume per arowana (from experience).
Indeed, of course if the arowanas are small you could fit a huge amount in a 1,000 gallon.
But most people only buy the amount of fish that they can house once they mature. Most people do not have anywhere to offload 20 growing arowanas. Plus, from my experience and opinion (not a books), it is better to give a young fish its adult room from its early age.
This is really just a split of personal opinions ethnics.
I had missed a lot of these comments. Some good ones too! I think 5 aros is plenty! I'm not into the overstocked tank look, period. That's the only reason I wouldn't go with more. I would rather see fish with lots of swiming room and happy than to see a ton of fish crammed in a space. I'm still debating on the rest of the stock. I was thinking discus at first, but they're so fragile, I think it would limit what else I can have in there. ATM, I'm thinking Oscars. That would provide a LOT of interest in the lower part of the tank.
One other thing regarding a big tank and filtration, on top of cost for the filter is the sq.ft. req'd for some people's thoughts on how big it should be. I've read some rediculous sizes for w/d's suggested. I think most of them are just WAG's that er on the side of caution to an extreme. I've heard of 15x turnover on tanks recently, which I still think is absurd!!! It used to always be 2x per hour. For 15x turnover on some tanks, you would have a turbid environment, which is not where these fish are from. They're in slow to still moving water. If I put the suggested 15x turnover on this thing, I think I'd have some PO'd aros.
I've been keeping tanks with 2x turnover for around 20 years, and I've always kept 0 wastes readings and kept low nitrates with water changes. This thing will have a constant supply of fresh water at a rate to equal 20% per week, so a 2x or 3x turnover will keep it in check, so long as I keep the stocking down, i.e. 5 aros, not 30.
I have fully investigated the feeding costs, and am more than prepared to keep these buggers too.
One other thing regarding a big tank and filtration, on top of cost for the filter is the sq.ft. req'd for some people's thoughts on how big it should be. I've read some rediculous sizes for w/d's suggested. I think most of them are just WAG's that er on the side of caution to an extreme. I've heard of 15x turnover on tanks recently, which I still think is absurd!!! It used to always be 2x per hour. For 15x turnover on some tanks, you would have a turbid environment, which is not where these fish are from. They're in slow to still moving water. If I put the suggested 15x turnover on this thing, I think I'd have some PO'd aros.
I've been keeping tanks with 2x turnover for around 20 years, and I've always kept 0 wastes readings and kept low nitrates with water changes. This thing will have a constant supply of fresh water at a rate to equal 20% per week, so a 2x or 3x turnover will keep it in check, so long as I keep the stocking down, i.e. 5 aros, not 30.
I have fully investigated the feeding costs, and am more than prepared to keep these buggers too.
Excellent to finally hear from you again wizzin!
I have been stalking this topic for way to long.
You share the same thoughts as well.
I have also heard some ridiculous turnover rate recommendations lately. Most i have heard is X10. But X4 is more than enough for really really messy fish! X2 being more than perfect for your stocking to water mass ratio.
Pop some pictures up as things progress!
Everything still on plan?
I have been stalking this topic for way to long.
You share the same thoughts as well.
I have also heard some ridiculous turnover rate recommendations lately. Most i have heard is X10. But X4 is more than enough for really really messy fish! X2 being more than perfect for your stocking to water mass ratio.
Pop some pictures up as things progress!
Everything still on plan?
I am also putting 5 Silvers into my 1000G during Christmas. They will have do some growth to catch up. But at 2-3"/month, it won't be long. My cichlids need some dither fish, Silver aros are the best dithers for large tank.
No you don't need 15X turnover rate for a 1000G. I am running 3X, it is just fine.
No you don't need 15X turnover rate for a 1000G. I am running 3X, it is just fine.
