60 Gallon Stocking Suggestions

[Deadliestviper7]

Any idea where I can get me some of those sunfish?

Jonahs aquarium

 

[Dagon's Progeny]

Jonahs aquarium[/QUOTE}

Really cool website but I didn't see orange spotted sunfish.
Unless they're under a different name and I didn't recognize their picture.

 

[Dagon's Progeny]

depends, there are a lot of Gars in the northern states

Besides cichlids, what else were you interested in? You are already way overstocked - clown loaches grow enormous

Anyways, think of any fish besides cichlids I could do in the future for my 60 gallon?

 

[predatorkeeper87]

Sunfish are US native no? That means cold water doesn't it?

Edit: nevermind that was stupid, gars are US native and not cold water

not stupid, you are correct, most sunfish need a cold period.

They tolerate cold water,but do well as tropical.

that's backwards, they tolerate warm water and thrive in colder water. My native tank gets down to the 50's in the winter and the fish act so much differently than when its 75ish in the summer.

 

[Dagon's Progeny]

Sunfsh won't work then. I need something that is tropical

 

[Frank Castle]

not stupid, you are correct, most sunfish need a cold period.

that's backwards, they tolerate warm water and thrive in colder water. My native tank gets down to the 50's in the winter and the fish act so much differently than when its 75ish in the summer.

mine definitely seem to be more active right now than when I had them in the 70's during summertime. I can agree w/ that

Sunfsh won't work then. I need something that is tropical

You realize it doesn't go from Tropical right to Coldwater - Temperate is in between Tropical and Coldwater. I would consider most U.S. native fish Temperate except fish like Pike, Muskellunge, Arctic Char, Salmon, Walleye, Chubs, etc. I would define temperate as being comfortable in either cold or tropical conditions, TRUE Coldwater species tend to perish in tropical but are ok in Temperate, Trout for instance can tolerate warmer water up to low 70's, but many die when the water gets above 75F. Mos consider trout a cold-water species, but they are largely inactive above 70F and below 50F

 

[predatorkeeper87]

mine definitely seem to be more active right now than when I had them in the 70's during summertime. I can agree w/ that

You realize it doesn't go from Tropical right to Coldwater - Temperate is in between Tropical and Coldwater. I would consider most U.S. native fish Temperate except fish like Pike, Muskellunge, Arctic Char, Salmon, Walleye, Chubs, etc. I would define temperate as being comfortable in either cold or tropical conditions, TRUE Coldwater species tend to perish in tropical but are ok in Temperate, Trout for instance can tolerate warmer water up to low 70's, but many die when the water gets above 75F. Mos consider trout a cold-water species, but they are largely inactive above 70F and below 50F

I've never seen trout not active in water below 50F, that's when we catch them the most over here, when the water is skirting the 40's.

I still wouldn't put a sunfish in a tank at 75-80F constantly.

 

[Dagon's Progeny]

mine definitely seem to be more active right now than when I had them in the 70's during summertime. I can agree w/ that

You realize it doesn't go from Tropical right to Coldwater - Temperate is in between Tropical and Coldwater. I would consider most U.S. native fish Temperate except fish like Pike, Muskellunge, Arctic Char, Salmon, Walleye, Chubs, etc. I would define temperate as being comfortable in either cold or tropical conditions, TRUE Coldwater species tend to perish in tropical but are ok in Temperate, Trout for instance can tolerate warmer water up to low 70's, but many die when the water gets above 75F. Mos consider trout a cold-water species, but they are largely inactive above 70F and below 50F

Trout can actually thrive below 50. Bt that's not the point, I prefer fish which are tropical e.i. fish that can be kept in 75-80 water and live their lives in a 60 gallon tank

 

[Frank Castle]

I've never seen trout not active in water below 50F, that's when we catch them the most over here, when the water is skirting the 40's.

I still wouldn't put a sunfish in a tank at 75-80F constantly.

Around here, when we go out Opening Day and the 1st 2 weeks to follow, temperature plays a huge impact on how active the fish are - some years we struggle just to nab a few when the water is low 50's or below, they seem almost ignorant of food, while on the nicer days when the sun is out and late-March get unusually warm into April we can catch dozens by lunchtime when the water is in the 60's.

Granted this may be a bad example since there are farmed and stocked, but you are probably right regarding "wild" trout or natives.

We have snatched some monsters by trolling depths of 20'+ in lakes located in the foothills of the Poconos from Late-March/April on into June, but once we get them into the Live-well they perish fairly quickly as a result of the surface temperature.

Overall IME, our best trout fishing occurs when water is between 55F-65F w/ a slight variation between the 3 local species.

 

[Dagon's Progeny]

Back on topic please. The kings of thread derailing have earned ther crowns, we get it. Any suggestions for my 60 gallon?