7-8' male and x2 5-7' female varanus salvadorii

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Bsixxx

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That's right going big!
Just started on my new monster enclosure (16'x8'x8') featuring a 400 gal pond for humidity (males home) and for the females they will be in the (12x6x6) I intend to breed these in the near future, but there longterm home won't be built till summer. But i should be getting them by next month:headbang2
 
A. gigas;4788883; said:
i seriously hope you know what you're getting into...

A trio of the the most beautiful varanus species...:headbang2
I know what they are capable of and I know these are not pet's, trust me good sir i know what I am getting into, I have worked with and around large monitors for years :)
 
Crocs are a different story, even I don't mess with them. But I like your intentions, however if I may add. The two females can not go im that same enclosure. And you must have visual references for these animals to be able to attain each others presence. The male need to know there are females and the females need to know there is a male thus the two females knowing there is more than one competing female to mate with the male. Again if you want the easiest possible scenario keep all three animals separated until you are prepared to go 30 ft long 12 ft high 12 ft wide, which I insist on being the bare bones minimum for such intelligent, high strung, reclusive large semi arboreal varanus.

As all this happens please share your steps this is highly interesting
 
varanio;4788935; said:
Crocs are a different story, even I don't mess with them. But I like your intentions, however if I may add. The two females can not go im that same enclosure. And you must have visual references for these animals to be able to attain each others presence. The male need to know there are females and the females need to know there is a male thus the two females knowing there is more than one competing female to mate with the male. Again if you want the easiest possible scenario keep all three animals separated until you are prepared to go 30 ft long 12 ft high 12 ft wide, which I insist on being the bare bones minimum for such intelligent, high strung, reclusive large semi arboreal varanus.

As all this happens please share your steps this is highly interesting

I shall keep updates like always.
I don't get the monitors for a while. and 12x6x6 can be made into a two part enclosure... (12x6x3 x2) but i didn't want to go that route, my intention was to have a male and a dominate female and a back up female incase the male rejected the intentional female i wanted to breed with/ pair up with. As I have seen such cases happen all too often. But this project will take a lot of time and money, so updates won't be for a while.
just getting a grip on opinion as of right now.
But this is the goal plan as of now, big wild caught male in the 16x8x8. and feamle(s) in 12x6x6. Overall monster enclosure will be either one 36x24x12, or x2 18x20x12 enclosures. and a smaller back up/hospital enclosure 12x8x10. all outdoor enclosures... More like insulated sheds actually.
 
Bsixxx;4789021; said:
I shall keep updates like always.
I don't get the monitors for a while. and 12x6x6 can be made into a two part enclosure... (12x6x3 x2) but i didn't want to go that route, my intention was to have a male and a dominate female and a back up female incase the male rejected the intentional female i wanted to breed with/ pair up with. As I have seen such cases happen all too often. But this project will take a lot of time and money, so updates won't be for a while.
just getting a grip on opinion as of right now.
But this is the goal plan as of now, big wild caught male in the 16x8x8. and feamle(s) in 12x6x6. Overall monster enclosure will be either one 36x24x12, or x2 18x20x12 enclosures. and a smaller back up/hospital enclosure 12x8x10. all outdoor enclosures... More like insulated sheds actually.

It's not the Male that rejects the Female........That's the first mistake.......

Keeping two Females together isn't the issue.....You'll have a dominant Female and a submissive Female......That's the simple part......Don't be surprised if one of your Females kills off the Male though......

Here's the hitch - If you ever want to have a slim chance at these animals breeding, they need to be kept together - However, don't expect 3 socially complex animals to mesh together........You seperate them, you just screwed up the heirarchy and made the situation worse.....

The Croc Monitor breeding plan is actually pretty simple - Start off with a group of hatchlings and raise them together......Once you start to see and understand the heirarchy and the way the animals work, you can take away from the group, but you can never add......The social aspect stays the same, and the group goes on to perform those life functions like they should......

Many people have tried and 98% ultimately failed......These things aren't easy animals to work with, and some kind of blood shed is inevitable when working with wild caught Adults.........


The sad part is, nobody has even addressed nesting, and all the complexities that come with that......
 
EricIvins;4789144; said:
It's not the Male that rejects the Female........That's the first mistake.......

Keeping two Females together isn't the issue.....You'll have a dominant Female and a submissive Female......That's the simple part......Don't be surprised if one of your Females kills off the Male though......

Here's the hitch - If you ever want to have a slim chance at these animals breeding, they need to be kept together - However, don't expect 3 socially complex animals to mesh together........You seperate them, you just screwed up the heirarchy and made the situation worse.....

The Croc Monitor breeding plan is actually pretty simple - Start off with a group of hatchlings and raise them together......Once you start to see and understand the heirarchy and the way the animals work, you can take away from the group, but you can never add......The social aspect stays the same, and the group goes on to perform those life functions like they should......

Many people have tried and 98% ultimately failed......These things aren't easy animals to work with, and some kind of blood shed is inevitable when working with wild caught Adults.........


The sad part is, nobody has even addressed nesting, and all the complexities that come with that......

You sound like you have had some close hand to hand work with these animals. I'd like to hear about more info if possible...

You say a group of hatchlings?
I have yet to see a group for sale, the smallest i can get ahold of is about 4' in group terms, i can get 2-3' individuals maybe 3 tops...
I think my best bet at this approach would be to go about this with more males than females.. maybe instead of a trio maybe have 3 males and 4 females and just throw them all in the big enclosure and take out the weakest members. keep the dominate three and see if they turn out to be a male and female, then next step see if they can bond.
Idk though, but this to me seems as to be the best method to approach this whole thing...
what would you think?:confused:
 
Eric,

Why would one even mention nesting options, the uphill battle will be to have these animals thrive and prevent harm from coming to any one of them and keeper. Let's be realistic, nesting is a very distant horizon from what's about to take place here, in fact it could very well never happen. Specially with no history of any kind To tell a story about the wild caughts.


EricIvins;4789144; said:
It's not the Male that rejects the Female........That's the first mistake.......

Keeping two Females together isn't the issue.....You'll have a dominant Female and a submissive Female......That's the simple part......Don't be surprised if one of your Females kills off the Male though......

Here's the hitch - If you ever want to have a slim chance at these animals breeding, they need to be kept together - However, don't expect 3 socially complex animals to mesh together........You seperate them, you just screwed up the heirarchy and made the situation worse.....

The Croc Monitor breeding plan is actually pretty simple - Start off with a group of hatchlings and raise them together......Once you start to see and understand the heirarchy and the way the animals work, you can take away from the group, but you can never add......The social aspect stays the same, and the group goes on to perform those life functions like they should......

Many people have tried and 98% ultimately failed......These things aren't easy animals to work with, and some kind of blood shed is inevitable when working with wild caught Adults.........


The sad part is, nobody has even addressed nesting, and all the complexities that come with that......
 
If you really want success I agree with Eric in getting a trio of babies. Talk Ben seigel he had 4 of them at one time. Don't know if he still does but he did have some in the classifieds. If he doesn't pm
Me and I'll reach out to some of my contacts and see what we can do.


Bsixxx;4789576; said:
You sound like you have had some close hand to hand work with these animals. I'd like to hear about more info if possible...

You say a group of hatchlings?
I have yet to see a group for sale, the smallest i can get ahold of is about 4' in group terms, i can get 2-3' individuals maybe 3 tops...
I think my best bet at this approach would be to go about this with more males than females.. maybe instead of a trio maybe have 3 males and 4 females and just throw them all in the big enclosure and take out the weakest members. keep the dominate three and see if they turn out to be a male and female, then next step see if they can bond.
Idk though, but this to me seems as to be the best method to approach this whole thing...
what would you think?:confused:
 
When you do build it, add in shift boxes/tunnels so that you can minimize handling and make cleaning easier. You do not want to mess with these guys when they start getting big. Same for any large monitor really.
 
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