A legal hypothetical-jurisdiction

[Mount_Prion]

Figure somebody here might have an answer for me. Can't stress enough that this is purely hypothetical, *not* my present situation. But it could become it, and I'm exploring options.

Subject A lives somewhere where a reptile is legal to own but not to sell. One of said reptiles becomes gravid, lays eggs, and babies hatch. Would it be legal to transport the babies to a neighboring state where their sale is legal and sell them?

Would transporting them between states likely be illegal without a permit of some kind? Or is this all too subject-specific on the animal to tell?

Would it make a difference if the babies were brought across state lines as eggs and hatched in the state where their sale is legal?

Been batting these questions around in my head.

Thanks!

 

[Pharaoh]

What do the laws say about transportation of the species in your state? What does it say about tranportation, importation, and sale of the species for the state in which you are selling?

 

[Mount_Prion]

What do the laws say about transportation of the species in your state? What does it say about tranportation and importation of the species for the state in which you are selling?

Guess I'd have to look that up. It'd be NY to NJ if I decided to do it.

 

[Miguel]

I would not rely on differentiation between eggs and babies

 

[zoohouse]

It might still be illegal. State line laws go both ways in and out. I have a friend who breeds designer morphs of burmese pythons, he is currently going under since his clientel has shrunk to just Tx now. Of course his problem is more on the federal level.

From what I know live eggs are considered live animals and would still be illegal to transport.

 

[Mount_Prion]

It might still be illegal. State line laws go both ways in and out. I have a friend who breeds designer morphs of burmese pythons, he is currently going under since his clientel has shrunk to just Tx now. Of course his problem is more on the federal level.

From what I know live eggs are considered live animals and would still be illegal to transport.

Hmm yeah I guess the whole egg/baby/gravid female part wouldn't make a difference in terms of transport.

And for the record I can't stress enough that if this is illegal I simply won't do it. This isn't a risk-assessment sounding board for me.

 

[fwprawn]

Just curious, what animals are we talking about?

Asking on here is tough, since each state has its own set of laws (which is exactly what you are trying to find out) - but "we" in other states, can't really tell you what your particular laws are.

Especially since, in some states, they have permit applications, that may not be available in other states.

Your best bet is to go to the NY FWS and ask them. I have emailed mine a few times, and they always respond in a timely manner, without a run-around.

 

[Inglorious]

Would it make a difference if the reptile is moved to state B before it lays eggs, that way the offspring would never be taken across state lines?

 

[Mount_Prion]

Just curious, what animals are we talking about?

Asking on here is tough, since each state has its own set of laws (which is exactly what you are trying to find out) - but "we" in other states, can't really tell you what your particular laws are.

Especially since, in some states, they have permit applications, that may not be available in other states.

Your best bet is to go to the NY FWS and ask them. I have emailed mine a few times, and they always respond in a timely manner, without a run-around.

Yeah, that's a good call. I'll just shoot them an email or call them or something. If I'm really trying to do this in a legit fashion I might as well just contact the authorities about it. And this would be ball pythons.

Would it make a difference if the reptile is moved to state B before it lays eggs, that way the offspring would never be taken across state lines?

I think that ultimately is going to be moot depending on if the states allow transport of animals between them in the first place.

 

[fwprawn]

Balls ? There are no regulations as far as I know, on those, anywhere. They are not considered one of the "large pythons" that are being banned (Burms, Retics, Rocks)