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frootloops;3835863; said:
Do you have chloramines in your tap?

My tank is 400g and I plan on doing 2GPH or 48 Gallons every 24 hours.
I'm concerned if this amount might kill my fish if my water has chlorine and chloramines.
I have no idea if my water provider adds chloramine or not. Chlorine I'm sure there's some



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And pow, your chlorine/chloramine problem is solved.
 
Using a regular spigot won't work. They are too finicky. The amount of water that you will be using will be rapid drops out of the hose/pipe, rather than a stream that you can adjust. When the spigot is adjusted down so that only drips are left, it is almost completely closed. Only a slight tightening is the difference between drips and nothing. Then as the pressure changes through the day, it goes from nothing to too much.

A cheap way to make a regulator is to use a length of copper or stainless steal tube and then put a series of crimps the center. You can do it on the end but it will spray or squirt rather than drip.

Chlorine will dissipate rapidly and won't be detectable in your tank if you keep the drip rate low. (Buy a cheap chlorine test kit for swimming pools.) You can get away with not using a chloramine filter for a while. However, my wake up call was when I lost over a thousand dollars worth of fish in a single day. Oddball lost around $30,000 in fish when his water company pumped in chloriamines.
 
CHOMPERS;3841605; said:
Chlorine will dissipate rapidly and won't be detectable in your tank if you keep the drip rate low. (Buy a cheap chlorine test kit for swimming pools.) You can get away with not using a chloramine filter for a while. However, my wake up call was when I lost over a thousand dollars worth of fish in a single day. Oddball lost around $30,000 in fish when his water company pumped in chloriamines.

Chompers, can you point me to the post or thread where you discussed your loss of thousand $ worth of fish in a single day? I'm currently dripping my water replacement in like so, takes it about 10-15 hours to drip in 500G:

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And believe that the aeration (caused by the sump outlet) and the drop 5-6' effectively dissipates the chlorine, I've checked with my water company and they don't add chloramines.
 
If they don't add chloramines you should be good to go pare ;)
 
I think I'll just install a large carbon filter to be on the safe side.

MeAko, who is your water provider? Mine is Maynilad and I don't know if they add chloramines or not. Do you simply add untreated tap water to your pond?
How large is your pond and how many gallons of water do you add every 24 hours?
 
Go with the chemilizer or minidos way if you have chloramines. Safest in my book.
 
frootloops;3844581; said:
I think I'll just install a large carbon filter to be on the safe side.

MeAko, who is your water provider? Mine is Maynilad and I don't know if they add chloramines or not. Do you simply add untreated tap water to your pond?
How large is your pond and how many gallons of water do you add every 24 hours?

Details of my pond and stock list are in my SIG.

Maynilad is my provider. I went to their website before and noticed that they do not add chloramines.

Yes, I simply add the untreated tap water. I believe the drop and the aeration significantly takes care of the chlorine. Plus considering the size of my pond, the fish have a CHOICE whether to hang out there and be exposed to "burning chlorine" or to swim over to the other side. At times, I see that they actually hang out under the untreated water dripping in. They don't even hang out there if I'm not replacing water. If it was burning them, they should swim away, if they're idiotically burning themselves, then they deserve to be burnt--dumb fish! Here's the pix, look at the Kois hanging out near where the untreated water is dripping in.
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MeAko;3844483; said:
Chompers, can you point me to the post or thread where you discussed your loss of thousand $ worth of fish in a single day?

I've checked with my water company and they don't add chloramines.
There isn't a thread. I don't celebrate the deaths of my fish.

My water company doesn't add chloramines either. Except for two times. And guess how I found out...

And Oddballs water company doesn't add chloramines either. Except for the day that there was a water main break. Guess how he found out...

And there are countless other people who have water companies that don't add chloramines, but...

And don't assume what works for you will work for others. If you put my water in your pond at that rate, your fish would be dead in less than a day. I have tested my water at over 20 ppm. To put that into perspective, my swimming pool test kit says that 3ppm is high. My chlorine is typically between 5 ppm and 10 ppm. When it is on the low side, it takes 12-24 hrs. to remove the chlorine by aeration (aging in a barrel). When it is high, it has had chlorine after two days of aeration.
 
CHOMPERS;3845097; said:
And don't assume what works for you will work for others.

Yup, excellent point.
 
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