about arapaima..
- Thread starter GarNiac
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I wonder what kind of "proof of habitat", or special order red tape, feeder fish should require? Do you not hear yourselves? As soon as you begin the slide down that slippery slope, you might as well join PETA.
i get where you are going with this, but the way i see it is, there are basically 3 types of people that buy serious monsters and they are; a) the un-informed or b) those that have a monster tank / pond and want to fill it with monsters and c) those that want to show off but are unequipped to do so...
So if these cute 2" monsters arent at stores people with no clue wont be as likely to impulse buy them, since they wont see them, and those who do want them, have likely done their research in order to even know about the fish, and therefore will be prepared to house them...
And as for those that want to show off, again, if they arent in the stores, they arent as likely to purposesly order one just to own one...
So if these cute 2" monsters arent at stores people with no clue wont be as likely to impulse buy them, since they wont see them, and those who do want them, have likely done their research in order to even know about the fish, and therefore will be prepared to house them...
And as for those that want to show off, again, if they arent in the stores, they arent as likely to purposesly order one just to own one...
I absolutely agree with making big fish special-order. Maybe anything two feet long or larger? Absolutely anything that starts approaching human size. It'd be difficult to establish any kind of proof-of-habitat red tape, but if pet stores were required to say "before we special-order this, be aware that it will require X size tank", and the special-order price factored in, there would be pretty much no impulse buys and far fewer ill-informed purchasers.
Signs on tanks don't do much unless they're accurate, otherwise they're more like harmful. Petsmart signs list silver dollar tank size as 30g and oscar tank size as 45g.
Signs on tanks don't do much unless they're accurate, otherwise they're more like harmful. Petsmart signs list silver dollar tank size as 30g and oscar tank size as 45g.
I wouldn't ban people keeping these fish and other fish but I think there should be a warning lab to at least tell people what they might be getting into if they buy one.
is it true that arapaima are already farms breed?
the fact is worse here in Asia, I've seen many many offsprings came into the country and sold off within seconds.. and I doubt even any of them would life any longer within few years after reaching into hobbyst's tank. Some are even released into local river then become news on the next day that people saw a huge fish in the water.
the fact is worse here in Asia, I've seen many many offsprings came into the country and sold off within seconds.. and I doubt even any of them would life any longer within few years after reaching into hobbyst's tank. Some are even released into local river then become news on the next day that people saw a huge fish in the water.
Along with basic regulations on minimum requirements to sell animals, shops should have to disclose the size that ALL fish grow to and the MINIMUM tank size required to house any fish for life, that way people can make informed choices about what fish to stock. I still too often overhear that a pangasius, RTC, etc is fine for a 2 foot and will only grow to the size of the tank.
Banning will only drive trade underground, and as aid above, you can't stop stupid.
Banning will only drive trade underground, and as aid above, you can't stop stupid.
No, not at all, it wouldn't need to happen like that. You raise prices by restricting the amount to allowed to be exported, would be pretty easy without involving anyone like PETA or having someone require "proof of habitat".
Restrict the export of Pimas (for example, I dont know what the proper number would be) to allow 500 fish a year, with the restriction in place the price will skyrocket. Higher prices and limited supply will allow the enthusiasts (Lets be honest, if you can afford to house a Pima or other fish this size you are not worried about the price) to still have the fish if they desire and the uniformed can stay ignorant to a fish they cant afford.
Similar to the effect we see with Australian Lungfish right now, they are available to those who are willing to spend 2k on a fish, they are very rare, but still available if you wish. The only difference is that this would be due to their size.
Wow man! Are you always against everyone? You don't believe a responsible fish store owner should ask what size aquarium/pond a monster fish will be housed in? So let every Yahoo buy fish to maybe release them in the wild?
Sorry. That's how fish get banned. Look at Florida's banned list. You may sit well with it in Canada, but the day my pacu becomes illegal because of irresponsibility, people may ask why wasn't some kind of simple regulation in place to begin with.
