ur still new on the boards. there are thousands and thousand of members on MFK, somebody will give u their 2 cents. Not ever jar is the same, like human beings were are all individuals. if only i had a nice camera i can show u my jar he's 0nly 9"-10" he looks amazing. When i get a hold of a camera i will PM u. i know ur just making threads, but u gotta expect alot of feed back negative or positive.