Aggression question

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Rebelsgirl said:
Do you happen to know off the top of your head any of those breeds that form a bonded pair?
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I had a pair of Midas pair up, spawned several times, and I finally got rid of the male because I was sick of all the fry all over the place. They'd spawn and take up half of a 540 gallon, beat on all the other fish, I had 2 different generations of fry growing out in my sump and in a 20 gallon tank. I moved the pair to my 125, and they spawned in there, too--more fry.

I divided them once for a few days just so they'd quit breeding. They got along great, though--with each other.
 
ragin_cajun said:
I had a pair of Midas pair up, spawned several times, and I finally got rid of the male because I was sick of all the fry all over the place. They'd spawn and take up half of a 540 gallon, beat on all the other fish, I had 2 different generations of fry growing out in my sump and in a 20 gallon tank. I moved the pair to my 125, and they spawned in there, too--more fry.

I divided them once for a few days just so they'd quit breeding. They got along great, though--with each other.
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Is that typical for the species?
 
I don't know if they typically get along that well when they pair up, but I think Midas typically spawn prolifically like that.

Mine got along well, I think, because the female was much older and bigger than the male.
 
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philipraposo1982 said:
Do this: do a search on youtube, look at all the popular larger SA/CA cichlids. Then narrow it does to only videos of breeding pairs. take a note of how many of them actually coexist without having to be divided.

I have done this and rarely do I find a pair of large cichlids that don't have to be separated. even in tanks that appear big enough.

In the wild fish would spawn and if the female wanted the male gone then he could go swim off and be done with it. or if a male wanted to spawn and the femlae wanted nothing to do with the male she could simply leave. when we trap them in a tank they don't have this opportunity to leave.

Some species of cichlids are far better at being parents together and will form a bonded pair which these is rarely any major aggression.
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So my current plan is to rehome one of my fish the day after Christmas (to a long time friend was an established tank). I've put my feelers out to rehome hopefully another two. Jeff Rapps is expecting a shipment of A. ravs today/tomorrow, so I'm excited to hear back from him. If he has a nice male, I will keep my best female and rehome the rest. Worst comes to worst (they can't maintain relative peace)and I will either set that female up in a tank by herself or I will rehome her and keep the male as a single "wet pet." If Jeff doesn't have anything for me, I kind of want to rehome all of the GTs and go with an oscar. No tank mates. Super simple. Less worry.
 
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philipraposo1982 said:
If your not planning to go to a much larger tank I would think the idea of a single male with multiple females would be tight.

Even if there was zero aggression (not a chance in hell) one 10" male and 2-3 7" females would be all over each other in a 75g. it wouldn't be an enjoyable life for them being so cramped.

I would keep my single male in a 180g if i had the room for it. I regret buying the rimless 75g and wish I spent the money on a 180 and built a new stand. Maybe one day when I have a bigger place.
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most females stop growing around 5....it would take YEARS to get a a female 7", and even males's size is often exaggerated. I've seen many people claim a fish is 12" only to see it's really more like 9-10"

philipraposo1982 said:
I hope it works out for you, in the chance that it doesn't make sure to have a backup plan. A divider on hand or spare tank or a friend to come take the fish. Green terrors don't form bonded pairs from what I know which means that it will likely end up as I have described.

Out of curiosity do you know someone with a pair that is happy together? any posts or videos showing such behavior?

I mean in my setup for the several months i kept the two there are periods where they get along fine. Only when there is no eggs or fry in the tank, and when neither of them are looking to spawn.
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my pair did. they were totally chill no matter what
philipraposo1982 said:
I hope it works out for you, in the chance that it doesn't make sure to have a backup plan. A divider on hand or spare tank or a friend to come take the fish. Green terrors don't form bonded pairs from what I know which means that it will likely end up as I have described.

Out of curiosity do you know someone with a pair that is happy together? any posts or videos showing such behavior?

I mean in my setup for the several months i kept the two there are periods where they get along fine. Only when there is no eggs or fry in the tank, and when neither of them are looking to spawn.
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my pair did. they were totally chill no matter what, maybe im just lucky
 
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Frank Castle said:
most females stop growing around 5....it would take YEARS to get a a female 7", and even males's size is often exaggerated. I've seen many people claim a fish is 12" only to see it's really more like 9-10"


my pair did. they were totally chill no matter what




my pair did. they were totally chill no matter what, maybe im just lucky
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This... Gives me some hope! I really want this pair to work out. And there is a basically 100% opportunity for a large upgrade tank wise in about 3 years. My house right now can only fit a ~5' long tank (which is larger than I have now, but I would.upgrade if a good opportunity presented itself).

I had heard GTs were slow growers, at between .25-.5 inches a month so I figured I had a while to upgrade, if necessary.
 
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