Aggressive bacteria

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HouseMD

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Jul 10, 2011
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Dear community,

Actually I believe this post should be classified as one of the Lesson Learn posts, but anyway, as I still have the disease, I'll share with you what happened due a total imprudence from my side :(. Anyway, first of all I would like to show you some details of my tank:

230x70x60
Sump DIY (340L)
Temperature 29ºC
PH 6,8
UV filter 16W (full time powered on)

Some pictures of my tank:

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Landscape

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Jack Dempesey Blue R.I.P.

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Oscar

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Red Devil R.I.P.

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FH R.I.P.






Some colleagues and I spent some time together fishing on a lake two weeks ago, and fortunately or not, we catch a big "mussum" (Synbranchus marmoratus - check pict. 1) and I decided to take it for my own tank. Unfortunately I assumed a risk to do not perform the "quarantine" with the collected fish, and this was the worse mistake that I ever made :( - somehow, the "mussum" fish was contaminated with a aggressive kind of bacteria (so far the bacteria still unknown ..), and I already lost some of my fish that I have kept for long years :( and seems that the disease is out control and I'm expecting the worse :(.

Symptoms: on the first day, I detected a kind of membrane all over the fish body, including it's eye (seems that the fish is blind), on the second day of contamination, they stop to eat, and still stand for long time, I could also detect that the breathing was too slow. After some hours the fish falls and dies.

I'll also post some pictures in order to show you what happened and how aggressive a bacteria could be. Of course I did my best in order to do a properly treatment but as I just had one forum as source for this disease, as you might know, I got a lot of feedback's regarding the disease, but most of them are totally different, and I had to do 3x treatments what reduced my time in order to detected the disease - basically fungus, bacteria and parasites. Firstly, I used an aquarium standard medicine for fungus (Atlantys), but after 2 hours I lost the first fish officially (Flower Horn close to 30cm). With many different diagnostics of the colleagues, I also tried to treat with Sera Mycopur (for Fungus and Parasites), following the factory recommendations, but after two days I also lost a Red Devil (close to 25cm). So I tried the last treatment following a colleague advice, I bought antibiotics for bacteria in a large scale, and I'm on the 3rd day of treatment, so far I also had more two deaths (yellow peacock and incredibly the own mussum fish). It's important to say that the Peacock bass didn't show the symptoms of this disease, what makes me believe he died due a combo of medicines..

Picture 1 - "Mussum" fish:

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Disease pictures:

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The antibiotic ... the unique method that is making sense so far .

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Anyway, I'm very sad with the situation, but I also can't complain since it was totally my fault!

I'm from Brazil, and I believe it is very enriching to exchange opinions and get knowledge from other cultures, meanly when we are talking about the same hobby :-).


I will update you as much as I can...

Death list (so far):
- Jack Dempsey Blue
- Flower Horn
- Mussum (Tulip eel)
- Yellow Peacock bass
- Apteronotus albifrons
 
I'm no expert on meds, but i'm curious, do you think by mixing all those meds over "X" amount of time might have caused some of the fish to pass away?

Also, just curious, are those antibiotics for human use or fish? since i see them in capsule form, so just wondering...

Eitherway, best of luck with your tank and hopefully it will all get sorted out...
 
I'm no expert on meds, but i'm curious, do you think by mixing all those meds over "X" amount of time might have caused some of the fish to pass away?

Also, just curious, are those antibiotics for human use or fish? since i see them in capsule form, so just wondering...

Eitherway, best of luck with your tank and hopefully it will all get sorted out...

Hello there,

It's hard to say, since there are still two peacock bass without any problem so far (they are eating, swiming, and so on).

The pills are for human usage and it was recommended by an experienced user from a Brazilian forum. Just for your information the antibiotic used was Tetracycline hydrochloride.
 
Thanks for the info HouseMD, and as i said before, best of luck dealing with this problem....


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Dear all. Fortunately seems that the desease is gone. Surprisingly my couple of apaiaris (oscars), had also spawned

I‘ll send some pics later

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With all respect, but why do you use antibiotics without knowing what causes the disease? That stuff is used for humans, you put it in the water. Where ends the water of your waterchanges? You can create resiliant bacteria with that, like MRSA...i hope you are aware of that and i doubt you want a super bug in your house. Thats a good example for why antibiotics should be banned from private use. Sorry for your fish comrade but thats not ok...
 
With all respect, but why do you use antibiotics without knowing what causes the disease? That stuff is used for humans, you put it in the water. Where ends the water of your waterchanges? You can create resiliant bacteria with that, like MRSA...i hope you are aware of that and i doubt you want a super bug in your house. Thats a good example for why antibiotics should be banned from private use. Sorry for your fish comrade but thats not ok...

Stop trolling antibiotics are an important tool in the hobby. I would have lost many expensive fish to bacterial infections without them. Sure they should not be used all willy nilly but banning them sounds very european. Human, horse, pig, dog, cat antibiotics who cares? It is quite common to use other animal medicines for fish. I would assume human meds would be more safe/pure than "ornamental fish" grade meds.
 
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