AGGRESSIVE CICHLID TANK WITH NO AGGRESSION

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Hmmm...I didn't start this thread. Try reading man. And I don't need advise and didn't ask for any. I've been up and running for a very long time, and have no issues.....been on here a long time, and have a lot of experience.

My statement stands. Not dosing for chlorine/chloramine in and of itself can result in a crash. Regardless of bb colony, stocking levels, or anything else. To just put a blanket statement saying it can't is ignorant. We don't know how much chlorine/chloramine is in the ops water supply...so to just put a blanket statement like that is just ignorance. I know in my case, it would cause a crash, and my tank is very established and under stocked.

Lol I was agreeing with you as the other guys said your statement was false and ignorant. I agreed with what you said


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Message to people in this thread, there have been a few dumb asses jump I'm here and mention that I have had a cycle issue..let's discuss that:

1: this tank was set up and running BEFORE my cycle crashed and the stats were 0,0,0

Yet you posted several threads prior to this "crash" regarding cloudy and murky water. Along with numerous experimental filtration issues.

2: my cycle crashed because my wife refilled my rainwater tank with town water and forgot to tell me,I then did a 70-80% water change with no prime.

You posted that this crash happened on April 7th

3: cycle is slowly restarting.

Four months later?

4: terracotta does denitrify, I find that typically one large 3-4kg piece reduced nitrate by 5ppm

How do you know this? The terracotta you now picture in your tank is different the pieces pictured befor the crash. Also before the crash your explanation was that the moving and vibrating bed filters were dealing with your denitrifing.


Lastly to the people who pounded this thread,I could understand you criticizing me if I had actually done something incorrectly, but your telling me in a bad fish keeper because my wife erroneously filled the tank with town water...how was she to know there was a difference she has zero interest in the fish...(be very careful before you entertain the idea of insulting towards my wife)

What I believe your doing wrong is the information your spreading. You shouldn't be giving advice when you can't properly maintain a tank.

Water is water to her, the tank ran dry, she got it refilled and didn't say anything, why would she?

I did my water change with no prime as usual and bang...cycle collapsed, chlorine sterilized my bio media.

The world goes on, I will fix the cycle with the fish in the tank some how, and in future my wife will tell me if she emptied the tank and gets it refilled....

If I'm honest I think bderick67 who posted is just trolling, he has been hassling in the past and I think he saw an opportunity to be a troll and took it....enjoy life!

If your going to try and make a fool of someone get the facts straight first...

My facts are straight, they are all in your previous threads. This is why I advised people to look at your threads before taking any of your advice. Do you really want me to post the facts here?

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My replies above in red. Summery is that you had a major problem with your tank 4 months ago and you have yet to correct it. IMO you have no idea what what you are doing and should be seeking advice instead of giving it,
 
My replies above in red. Summery is that you had a major problem with your tank 4 months ago and you have yet to correct it. IMO you have no idea what what you are doing and should be seeking advice instead of giving it,

Oh my god....go away.


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I'll write what I wrote before: Terracotta pots cannot remove the nitrates from that bioload. What test kit are you using? How many days after a water change are you doing the test?

Keeping nitrates out of the dreaded Red Zone is the bane of keeping cichlids. If you could keep them under 50 with that stocking I'd be impressed, but zero!? This is why overstocking isn't a viable solution to SA/CA aggression. It creates an intractable water quality issue.
 
You are wrong about the chlorine. Please read my previous posts about it as well as other forum members agreeance with my comments. You are DEAD wrong about chlorine/chloramine being ok. Please stop with your misinformed comments about it.
 
If this can't be discuessed rationally I'll be forced to close this thread. I'm not going to babysit this thing and clean up/edit posts.
 
I'm surprised that a mod hasn't posted in regards to the theory (cough-cough) that a few terracotta blocks can reduce ones nitrates to zero in a tank that most would consider overstocked.

How about some rational discussion about that? I mean we wouldn't want new members to MFK to read that kind of misinformation, and actually believe that all one has to do is place a few terracotta pots in their tank and they too could have an overstocked tank with zero nitrates, would we?
 
The addition of terracota will not in of itself do anything to reduce nitrates. However as it relates to additional suface area for the colinization of benificial bacteria the more places for BB to establish itself will allow for greater conversion of ammonia to nitrite and nitrite to nitrate which should then be either consumed by plants and or removed by water changes. As far as surface area goes there are better options then terracota pots/blocks the greater the bio-capacity of your system the greater the bio-load it will be able to effectivly handle........................Happy?
 
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I posted earlier in this thread options in reducing nitrates that do not mention terracotta. I forget what page it's on.
My three previously mentioned options of reducing nitrates:
1. plants (chaeto in marine) absorb and use nitrates. converts to N2
2. Anaerobic bacteria in Deep Sand Beds (DSB). I am not going to debate the pros and cons of using a DSB. That is up to the hobbyist. All you have to know is anaerobic bacteria does denitrify nitrates.
3. Water changes

I will also mention that prime DOES denitrify nitrates in an established aquarium. I actually tried this method this past weekend on a test tank. My experiment involved using a tank and letting the nitrates build up. My readings were: ammonia- 0 ppm, nitrite- 0 ppm, nitrate- 20 ppm. A 10% water changed occured with an extra dosing of prime (beyond the recommended dosage for the water being added to the new water, i.e. 5mL for x amount of water. I added more to that x amount. The purpose was to see how much I could reduce my nitrates using prime. My readins were 0 across teh board. This is just a summary of what I did. Take it as you will. I dont personally like the idea of just adding prime to get rid of a nitrate problem because you arent figuring out why the nitrates are so high in the first place.

If anyone else has other options in reducing nitrates please share them :popcorn:

I'm surprised that a mod hasn't posted in regards to the theory (cough-cough) that a few terracotta blocks can reduce ones nitrates to zero in a tank that most would consider overstocked.

How about some rational discussion about that? I mean we wouldn't want new members to MFK to read that kind of misinformation, and actually believe that all one has to do is place a few terracotta pots in their tank and they too could have an overstocked tank with zero nitrates, would we?
 
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