AI overviews: why????

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Cal Amari said:
I'm with you on the first 3 paragraphs, and you're right, they are getting better quickly, but you relly lost me when you say information related, because the information they give is stated as fact often with holes, or made up "information". Forums have their problems, all of us should recognize that, but when you know you're talking to another person who has been through a similar experience you can take it as anecdotal information, perhaps a pinch of skepticism, with regard to the unique differences in your situation etc. Anyway I won't argue every point, I'm not against AI, or computer aided research,(it's not intelligence) but it will have to get significantly better before I'll make it one of my first places to check. The biggest problem is it uses the internet as it's data set, and hasn't the tools to discern good information from bad. It's like letting a third grader research your question online and kick back all results regardless of integrity of the source.
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I’m also with you and J jr71 about the first 2-3 paragraphs. I mean how can a beginner have a conversation with people who are convinced you’re already an imbecile for ever considering anything outside of what’s the accepted ideal…especially when a handful of people set and enforce the ideal from atop their high horses. Whether it’s having to do 100% daily water changes to properly keep discus or having to offer a 1000 gallon tank for a single fahaka. Add in the fact that we must do this or that as the bare minimum to be considered ethical and responsible pet owners and there is no conversation. I’ve seen numerous forums die in this exact way with a handful of strong personalities aggressively policing their beliefs and enforcing groupthink.

At least AI doesn’t resort to name calling and tries to answer questions. But I also agree with John that they’re far from reliable and at least right now, people with experience and first hand knowledge are still much better sources of info.
 
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I’m also with you and J jr71 about the first 2-3 paragraphs. I mean how can a beginner have a conversation with people who are convinced you’re already an imbecile for ever considering anything outside of what’s the accepted ideal…especially when a handful of people set and enforce the ideal from atop their high horses. Whether it’s having to do 100% daily water changes to properly keep discus or having to offer a 1000 gallon tank for a single fahaka. Add in the fact that we must do this or that as the bare minimum to be considered ethical and responsible pet owners and there is no conversation. I’ve seen numerous forums die in this exact way with a handful of strong personalities aggressively policing their beliefs and enforcing groupthink.

At least AI doesn’t resort to name calling and tries to answer questions. But I also agree with John that they’re far from reliable and at least right now, people with experience and first hand knowledge are still much better sources of info.
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But aren't the AI's simply parroting that "accepted ideal" in almost every case? If a particular method or technique is considered common wisdom and is used in the majority of cases by the majority of individuals...doesn't that pretty much guarantee that it will be the most frequently recommended and documented? And doesn't that then guarantee that AI's will be most likely to recommend it?

"Everybody does it this way; they must be right!" 🤔
 
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To be sure, it really comes down to a matter of personal preference with regards to where and how we source information to fill the knowledge gaps we all possess.
I'm a very visual, tactile learner, so one of my fav's is actually YouTube. When it comes to "fixing" stuff that I am untrained to fix, or am unfamiliar with, there's almost always video content available to watch someone else doing it. Some are definitely better than others, but I do like to try fix things that are outside of my training as an RN, or life's experience. YouTube clips have really enabled me to assess my capacity & competence to try things I would have otherwise had to pay someone else to fix for me. Fun times :thumbsup:
 
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I mean, hey... people you can use AI for different stuff like free face swap ai, like maybe you can use Gemini for fun you can use Chat GPT but there is no sense in reading AI overview if you are googling some easy question. Guys you have to spend 3 more seconds and watch something on youtube or visit first website with a normal answer you know..
 
I use it, and like it, for certain things. Hate it, love it, it’s here to stay.

I asked Google AI; how accurate is AI?

Below is AI’s response.

AI Overview



AI accuracy
varies widely, often reaching 90% or higher for well-defined tasks, but it remains fundamentally probabilistic rather than deterministic. While useful, AI frequently generates misinformation, hallucinates facts, and struggles with complex, nuance-driven tasks. It is best used for augmentation, not as a reliable, objective source.
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Key Findings on AI Accuracy
  • Contextual Reliability: AI is highly capable at summarization and brainstorming, but unreliable for specialized knowledge, in-depth research, or tasks requiring empathy, according to {Link: Alida https://www.alida.com/the-alida-jou...-but-is-that-10-a-risk-you-can-affold-to-take}.
  • Search and Information Retrieval:AI-powered search engines can have high error rates, with one study finding misattribution rates as high as 60-94% in certain tools, notes
    {Link: LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-accurate-ai-evaluating-reliability-ai-generated-buffard-zoewc}.
    • Detection Accuracy: Tools designed to detect AI content have varying accuracy, often ranging between 63–100%, with significant risks of false positives and negatives, says {Link: National Institutes of Health (NIH) | (.gov) https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12752165/}.
    • Inherent Bias: AI models are trained on human data and can produce biased, unobjective results, notes {Link: American University https://www.american.edu/cas/news/responsible-artificial-intelligence.cfm}.
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Factors Influencing Accuracy
Risks and Limitations
  • Hallucinations: AI can invent information with high confidence.
  • Lack of Truth Understanding: AI confuses high confidence (correlation) with accuracy (truth), according to {Link: UNU | United Nations University https://unu.edu/article/ai-not-high-precision-technology-and-has-profound-implications-world-work}.
  • Evolving Effectiveness: Some AI tools may become less effective at detecting AI-generated content over time, as indicated by research cited in this {Link: YouTube video
    }.
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For high-stakes tasks, expert review is necessary to verify AI-generated content, according to reports from {Link: University of Maryland https://lib.guides.umd.edu/c.php?g=1340355&p=9880574}.
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arstechnica.com

Google’s hidden AI diversity prompts lead to outcry over historically inaccurate images

Inserting depictions of diversity into AI images creates revisionist history, critics say.
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Hello; I guess back in 2024 an AI made up images of historical figures. The images became a joke on the news and late night TV. Some called them woke. The images were well formed but had crucial errors such as race and or gender. I Found some examples still online. The link above is nowhere all.

I think one thing determined is the AI as well as other "smart" computers have the biases of the programmer(s) inserted. Unless and until these basic programming biases are removed, then the output needs to be questioned. Computers are good for math and inventory. Not so much for opinions.
 
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