Ammonia in 10gal, small BGK and eel.

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Zeo has its uses for sure. My concern when using that or any other product that removes ammonia is that with the water changes will completely remove any ammonia from your tank. while that seems like a good idea, your starving what little bacteria you have, so as soon as you go back to weekly water changes or remove the zeo your going to have an ammonia spike on a new tank.

If the situation was an older tank that had a sudden ammonia spike and otherwise had an established system i would use zeo if water changes alone where not bringing the ammonia down or i was incapable of doing the water changes needed for whatever reason.

to use or not use zeo would depend on what your ammonia levels are at, but with such a small tank i would lean toward increasing water changes over the zeo in general.

to utilize the bio in the 60 i would directly take from the biological media to suppliment your 10s. gravel may help but you get more bang from the actual sludge in the other tanks filter. as odd as it may sound if you cant get some biomedia from the 60s setup... get some sludge from the filter. take out some media and get the solid bits that shake off. all you need is a table spoon or so. add it directly to the back of your filter. keep it in a ziplock ect so it doesn't dry out.

In a nutshell, i would get you water tested again or pick up a test and test it. exact numbers would help tell how "bad" it is. get the zeo.. you can always return it if you don't end up needing it, but you'll have it if you do. get the appropriate sized bag for your filter.. while the loose stuff is cheaper it can be annoying to try and juggle with everything else unless you don't mind. it costs abit more to buy it pre-bagged in the right size for your filter but it shouldn't be more the a few bucks either way.
 
Okay so, the consensus is that I will need to get:

Testing strips
Zeolite
Gravel or filter sludge from the 60gal.

What about the biomax bag? Is that what you meant by buying it pre-bagged?
 
Yeah if its a bag filled with white ceramic looking stuff thats prebagged biomax. Definitely use that. Keep up with the water changes, keep feeding your fish and test water regularly and you shoukd be fine

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Okay so I picked up some testing strips as well as a Biomax baggie for the filter. After using the testing strip I see my ammonia is around the 3.0 ppm mark. I put the baggie in the filter tonight and will do another 20/25% water change tomorrow when I get home from work, and test it again afterwards. Hopefully it'l be like the girl at the store said and I'll slowly see the ammonia dropping.
 
You should, also the water may get cloudy as the water cycles, which is normal. Just stick to the water change and feeding regiment and let us know how it goes
 
Just keep up with the water changes for a few weeks, maybe taper off after 3 or 4 weeks from initial set up date or so. Biomax/ceramic rings are just media and will have zero direct effect on the water parameters. It simply provides an extremely large surface area for bacteria to grow on, and the bacteria takes just as long to grow in it as it does on anything else. The large surface area only makes the filtration more efficient.

One nice thing though is that in the future if you ever have to set up a quarantine tank, you can just buy the cheapest in-tank or HOB filter available at walmart, slap it onto a 10gallon $10 tank, and drop some of the used rings into the new filter and be set. just remember to bleach whatever rings you use once you're done before they go back into your main tank.
 
Sorry! I made a mistake. The baggie is actually zeolite, not biomax. Will keep you guys posted on my progress though.
 
Zeo has its uses for sure. My concern when using that or any other product that removes ammonia is that with the water changes will completely remove any ammonia from your tank. while that seems like a good idea, your starving what little bacteria you have, so as soon as you go back to weekly water changes or remove the zeo your going to have an ammonia spike on a new tank.

If the situation was an older tank that had a sudden ammonia spike and otherwise had an established system i would use zeo if water changes alone where not bringing the ammonia down or i was incapable of doing the water changes needed for whatever reason.

to use or not use zeo would depend on what your ammonia levels are at, but with such a small tank i would lean toward increasing water changes over the zeo in general.

to utilize the bio in the 60 i would directly take from the biological media to suppliment your 10s. gravel may help but you get more bang from the actual sludge in the other tanks filter. as odd as it may sound if you cant get some biomedia from the 60s setup... get some sludge from the filter. take out some media and get the solid bits that shake off. all you need is a table spoon or so. add it directly to the back of your filter. keep it in a ziplock ect so it doesn't dry out.

In a nutshell, i would get you water tested again or pick up a test and test it. exact numbers would help tell how "bad" it is. get the zeo.. you can always return it if you don't end up needing it, but you'll have it if you do. get the appropriate sized bag for your filter.. while the loose stuff is cheaper it can be annoying to try and juggle with everything else unless you don't mind. it costs abit more to buy it pre-bagged in the right size for your filter but it shouldn't be more the a few bucks either way.

I think monsterminis has it right. probably best to avoid the zeolite for now as it will absorb ammo/nitrite and, in doing so, absorbs all the food the bacterial colony need to get started.
 
I agree, you need bacteria badly, not any other type of filtration right now. The water changes will keep your water safe, you just need wait for your baceria to colonize. Once theyre established youll be golden
 
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