Anglefish Stocking Help Needed

[Earthswater]

I have 1 20 gallon tank, just set it up about 4 days ago, transfered some water over from my other 5 gal tank. I want to get anglefish along with some other smaller fish. i heard that 1 anglefish is fine but 2 fight one other. i also heard that 3 is fine but i think that would be too many, not to healthy for the fish. Also, any other fish sugestions? Or anglefish care advice? Thanks


In the picture, the tank is very clear, it is just a crappy camera/not the best lighting.

 

[erk419]

What is your stocking list in the 20 gallon at the moment?

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[charles-n-charge]

in all honesty, i believe that 30 gallons should be the minimum tank size for them. Most places tell you 15 gallons is ok and that they only get 4.5" long and 5" tall, but if well cared for like mine were they can get to the size of a piece of notebook paper (no joke). i refuse to keep mine in any less than a 55, but thats just me.

if you HAVE to keep one in there then only keep ONE. they can also be aggressive and shouldnt be kept with anything under 2" or so (esp small tetras) and also, like most cichlids, have unpredictable personalities so be prepared for that aswell.

 

[Laticauda]

if you HAVE to keep one in there then only keep ONE. they can also be aggressive and shouldnt be kept with anything under 2" or so (esp small tetras) and also, like most cichlids, have unpredictable personalities so be prepared for that aswell.

Here are some first hand experiences with angelfish to help you imagine the range of neurotic behavior displayed by angelfish (which are typically peaceful.)

1) Spawn - 1/2 black veiltale, 1/2 wild peruvian
He was a killer, killed all of his angelfish tank mates, even with upwards of 8 of them to help spread out bullying in a 90 gallon tank. However, he left male guppies and the like alone. He was only 2 inches from nose to tip of tail when he expressed this killing behavior. He was then kept separate from all other angelfish by physical partition, or separate tanks all together.

2) Domestic Veiltale - fine with other angelfish of all sizes, but after a male guppy was dropped in, he ripped it in half. The angelfish was only 2.5 inches from nose to tip of tail.

 

[Earthswater]

thanks for the advice, but i have my heart set on getting an anglefish, hopefully mine will be an angle (haha)
An advice on how to care for it?

 

[charles-n-charge]

angels typically are the dominating fish in a community tank so really it shouldnt be hard to care for.

theyll accept flakes, pellets, small portions of meat from time to time.

they need low currents in the water (theyre practically a big sail so if the water is moving a lot theyll be thrown all over the place, this normally results in stress, then death shortly after that.)

theyre pretty hardy fish and can take almost anything you throw at them (as long as youre not actually trying to kill the fish, itll probably do fine lol).
Although like most fish, babies are more sensitive.


in that tank, with an angel, id reccomend not having a massive stock of small fish.

personally id do the angel, 3-4 zebra danios, a chinesse algae eater, a couple cory cats, and maybe 1-2 african butterflies.
thats just me personally though, you dont have to do that at all. id just try to stay with fish that get between 2-5" and go with a stock of about 10 fish (give or take a couple depending on the stock)

 

[Laticauda]

There are a few blatant problems with the stocking suggested by Charles-n-charge. (Sorry.)

African butterfly fish are territorial and big waste producers. You wouldn't want one in a 20 gallon with small fish, they will eat them (much less two.)

You won't want a chinese algae eater either, they are very territorial and aggressive as they get bigger, and I just refuse to own them. They also get rather big, and wouldn't live forever in a 20 gallon.

Zebra danios do "ok" in tropical temperatures, but are more a cooler water fish, and angelfish NEED tropical temperatures.

Maybe one angelfish, 6 or so corydoras (all the same species, they are happy when kept in a school.) A honey gourami, or a species of apistogramma would probably do well too. Maybe a trio of platy's would do well and are pretty

With such a small tank, you are pretty limited as far as how many fish, but if you are sure to keep where the fish live spread out, it can be a very nice effect.
What do you have in the tank right now? What are you using to cycle it? You really need to be sure to cycle the filter appropriately before adding any fish, since living through the cycling process can cause irreparable damage to the internal systems of fish.

 

[charles-n-charge]

There are a few blatant problems with the stocking suggested by Charles-n-charge. (Sorry.)

African butterfly fish are territorial and big waste producers. You wouldn't want one in a 20 gallon with small fish, they will eat them (much less two.)

You won't want a chinese algae eater either, they are very territorial and aggressive as they get bigger, and I just refuse to own them. They also get rather big, and wouldn't live forever in a 20 gallon.

Zebra danios do "ok" in tropical temperatures, but are more a cooler water fish, and angelfish NEED tropical temperatures.

Maybe one angelfish, 6 or so corydoras (all the same species, they are happy when kept in a school.) A honey gourami, or a species of apistogramma would probably do well too. Maybe a trio of platy's would do well and are pretty

With such a small tank, you are pretty limited as far as how many fish, but if you are sure to keep where the fish live spread out, it can be a very nice effect.
What do you have in the tank right now? What are you using to cycle it? You really need to be sure to cycle the filter appropriately before adding any fish, since living through the cycling process can cause irreparable damage to the internal systems of fish.

sorry for the screw up, not the stocking expert lol esp with small fish. besides the stock list though the info should be pretty spot-on. ive kept angels for a long time and really, not maybe people get their angels to be as big, colorful, and healthy as mine were before they died

 

[Earthswater]

1 danio and a corycat, i can put them back in a diff tank tho

 

[Earthswater]

What is your stocking list in the 20 gallon at the moment?

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1 danio and 1 corycat, can put them back into a diff tank tho