Another Monster
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def a halibut, 1,000 lbers are caught in the Alaskan waterway every year, I once caugt a 4'er in upper PugetSound while fishing for silver salmon. It had swallowed the 18" salmon I had hooked, I kept and ate both.
Halibut fishing is well regulated and populations in U.S. inshore waters are stable or increasing, even the smaller California Halibut is making a come back. Illegal longliners are the major danger to localized populationsneoprodigy said:
Full agreement but many large ocean fish don't survive in farm nets and there aren't that many suitable areas, even oyster farms get sue for Impairing the view by the rich bastards who by shoreline property and close access to beaches, hell, the farms were there first. Pollution and commercial overharvest are major threats. Something to remember is that large fish eat small fish, when forage stocks crash, like when the anchovies off Chile were overfished to make animal feed and fertilizer, the pops of billfish, tuna, and salmon all nosedived.e!o!z! said:
Farming fish is worse. They dont move the pens so HUGE amounts of waste develop under the pens. Thus parasites and other things breed under there. They then attack the fish not in the pens cause there is sooooo many of them. Also the native fish wont live in crap under the pens. Farmed fish food can be made of the "rejected" parts of animals that humans arent allowed to eat. So for a while it might have been possible to get mad cow from farmed salmon!!!!! Farmed salmon's meat is DYED pink and in normaly brown from their crappy diet. In the wild they feed on crill which gives them the nice red color. Because of farmed fish dont get the good diet of a wild fish they arent as good for u. Farmed salmon and other fish dont have as much of the things in them that are good for u and the reason some people eat fish often (the oil etc...). I will never support fish farming unless they make improvements. Even many enviromentalists are against it! ( i know this from talking to some about it) because of what it does to the native fish in the area and the horrible conditions they are kept in.
Another thing, i think the estamate of there being only 10% of large fish left a little ridiculous. How do they get these estamates? When u put more restrictions on fishermen (im not saying is a bad thing tho) of course they will catch less fish!!!!! If they only are able to go in smaller areas, shorter seasons, and some types of fishing is now out lawed it is obious there will be less fish caught. I know for a fact these people doing the studys dont go out on fishing boats to do the studys. (at least rarely if ever where i live). Many people near me are losing their jobs because fishing is becoming so restricted. Do we really want to import fish from areas, not in the US obiously, where there are WAY fewer restrictions and hardly any one to enforce the laws? Also they are catching as many or MORE fish near me than when my grandpa fished where i live! And that is with way more restrictions. Where i am the fish population isnt going down, if anything it is going up. The local fisherman are catching as much as back then. So from first hand knoweledge i have always wondered where these studies come from? I think its ridiculous that so many people think commerical fisherman are destroying the ocean, which isnt true.
Another thing, i think the estamate of there being only 10% of large fish left a little ridiculous. How do they get these estamates? When u put more restrictions on fishermen (im not saying is a bad thing tho) of course they will catch less fish!!!!! If they only are able to go in smaller areas, shorter seasons, and some types of fishing is now out lawed it is obious there will be less fish caught. I know for a fact these people doing the studys dont go out on fishing boats to do the studys. (at least rarely if ever where i live). Many people near me are losing their jobs because fishing is becoming so restricted. Do we really want to import fish from areas, not in the US obiously, where there are WAY fewer restrictions and hardly any one to enforce the laws? Also they are catching as many or MORE fish near me than when my grandpa fished where i live! And that is with way more restrictions. Where i am the fish population isnt going down, if anything it is going up. The local fisherman are catching as much as back then. So from first hand knoweledge i have always wondered where these studies come from? I think its ridiculous that so many people think commerical fisherman are destroying the ocean, which isnt true.
Commercial fishing is changing in most fisheries to sustainable harvest practices, even the anchovy disaster was from lack of knowledge, they were harvesting the breeding population and an el nino added stress to cause a population crash. One reason that good fish farm locations are rare is that most sheltered waters don't have enough flushing to disperse the wastes leading to the some of the problems listed by Magic. Combined farming, salmon,crab, and mussels, help lower the waste prodution and provide some feed supplement. This field is understudied. In 1985 our college project fell thru because of lack of funds, it was to raise crabs from 5th instars to harvest and raise mussels to lower waste levels and provide food for the crabs. To get study permits to harvest the instars we had to agree to release 1/4 our adult harvest into area the young were taken from. We were aiming for a 10% survival rate.
