Another "Red" Stingray

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I Have heard that true retics are hard to get now a days. Then I hear they are cheap rays. Why would they be cheap rays if it is hard to get true ones.

I can not find the going rate for a large retic. I have my price set basiclly because of what it cost me. This one is 7-8". What would be the going rate for one this size.
 
I have a pair about 6" disc. They are picky eaters. They have a mottled colour on the underside of the disc and I am hearing of several females that are pregnant and due to shipping and capture usually have still born pups. The females are only about 6 - 7" disc and still having still born pups. Here are some pics of mine.

Good luck with yours :)

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Hi Stingray94

Mine have not bred yet but the imported females I know of that have had still born pups were only between a 6" and 7" disc. As you can see my male is sexually mature and I am hoping they will breed but I have only had them since September. I do know of another pair in the UK that had a live pup and they were about a 7" disc.

All this tells me that they are capable of breeding at this size. I guess I'll just have to wait and see with mine.
 
i have heard red retrics mature earlier then most rays so that would make sense... i really think that 7 " is still a little small for them to give actual birth though.... they have to be big enough to carry the pups
 
http://www.amazonasrochen.ch/page/rochen/arten/reticulata.htm

check it..

German Breeder had them spawn at 6-7".. has alot to do with conditioning I think.


I also have a theory that the "RED RETICULATA" is based on the collection zone and their diet within that collection zone. My rays when they were younger, only ate wigglers and black worms.. Their background pattern was a dark black/brown.. In the past 6 months, since they have been eating primarily all krill, their background pattern has been slowly changing to a dark maroon/red color..

I think the coloration has alot to do with their food source, as T1karman has some issues with black rays producing orange spots from their diet.

Check out my rays.. same ray, 6 months apart.. no photo enhancements.. about 2" growth. Only change was staple diet, from black worms to krill.

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I would definitely have to agree with Miles about the food sources affecting the colour of the rays. I've heard of people turning yellow fish dark orange using food that's got a ton of astaxanthin in it, so I don't see why it wouldn't affect rays too. If someone were so inclined they could probably turn a henlei with slightly yellow spots to rather vivid orange spots by coating all their food in astaxanthin (you can get it from Jehmco). Might even be something worth considering for rays that have some tendency towards red/orange coloration.
 
I think food source can have an affect on the colour. These rays are different from 'normal' retics in that they have a mottled pattern underneath the disc whereas 'normal' retics just have a dark colouring. This can be seen on the first pic I posted of my rays. They can breed successfully at 6 - 7" disc size but I guess only time will tell if they are different morph.
 
Miles;1624015; said:
http://www.amazonasrochen.ch/page/rochen/arten/reticulata.htm

check it..

German Breeder had them spawn at 6-7".. has alot to do with conditioning I think.


I also have a theory that the "RED RETICULATA" is based on the collection zone and their diet within that collection zone. My rays when they were younger, only ate wigglers and black worms.. Their background pattern was a dark black/brown.. In the past 6 months, since they have been eating primarily all krill, their background pattern has been slowly changing to a dark maroon/red color..

I think the coloration has alot to do with their food source, as T1karman has some issues with black rays producing orange spots from their diet.

Check out my rays.. same ray, 6 months apart.. no photo enhancements.. about 2" growth. Only change was staple diet, from black worms to krill.
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Agree.

All depends on light, substrate and prob also food.
Eat to many carrots an your skin will turn almost yellow. This is prob the same thing with rays.
 
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