any news about the yantze giant softshell turtle breeding project???

[clubtastic]

Actualy people often say " the reptile hobby destroys wild populacions, bla bla bla bla" Just imagen some softshell entusiast before the species became endangered brough a buch of babys and took them with him out of china and the animals now grown started to breed in their new home, we wouldnt have half of the problems we have today, this hobby is doing far more good then harm in the way we have it today (a few points to acertain here and there but as a woule good) Unfornatly we may be to late for this ancient creatures, wille there is life there is hope but as example of a species of turt that is allmost completly wipped out in the wild and that its triving in captivity you have the vietnamese pond turtle

I dont see how hobbyist effect them.
Most adult hobbyist that keep turtles keep them well maintained and fed.

 

[krzr3000]

I dont see how hobbyist effect them.
Most adult hobbyist that keep turtles keep them well maintained and fed.

No one knows the numbers, but i would say a lot of people improperly care for turtles. Based on working at a pet store for a few years, and the fact that you can pickup hatchlings in chinatown and flea markets in southern states for under $10 with a little plastic cage and "food" to give them.

 

[HPIZZLE]

I dont see how hobbyist effect them.
Most adult hobbyist that keep turtles keep them well maintained and fed.

theres also quite a few kids who do too bra. im 14 and have been keeping turtles for 9 years. in fact, still got my first one

 

[01C5Vert]

I dont see how hobbyist effect them.
Most adult hobbyist that keep turtles keep them well maintained and fed.

The market for turtles means there will always be people poaching them from the wild and depleting natural populations.

 

[coura]

I dont see how hobbyist effect them.
Most adult hobbyist that keep turtles keep them well maintained and fed.

Hobbists keep endangered species often ignored by zoos from going extinct in the wild and often zoos populacions come from private hands.
Axalotls, vietnamese pond turtles, crested geckos, golden coin tutles, blue ground iguanas,etc, all examples of animals either highly endangered in the wild or practly wipped out wich have been brough back with our hobby.
Im talking about apples and your talking about oranges
Imagen someone had did the same with this turtles

 

[coura]

No one knows the numbers, but i would say a lot of people improperly care for turtles. Based on working at a pet store for a few years, and the fact that you can pickup hatchlings in chinatown and flea markets in southern states for under $10 with a little plastic cage and "food" to give them.

Again diferent cenario If this species had entered the hobby somewere in the past, even being a prolific species they would comand way more then thouse 10$ wich would greatly restrict the people that would be buying them

 

[coura]

theres also quite a few kids who do too bra. im 14 and have been keeping turtles for 9 years. in fact, still got my first one

Same wave brother

 

[coura]

The market for turtles means there will always be people poaching them from the wild and depleting natural populations.

Yup but ironicly that also means that huge numbers of turtles are puted secured on private hands were no one can harm them and be bred for the species future. Many species of asian turtles would already been practicly wipped out if people werent securing captive populacions of them. Most have no future in wild in a very unfortunate way, at least in the near future, captive keeping will be excencial to keep them on the planet and to show them to our gran kids

 

[01C5Vert]

Yup but ironicly that also means that huge numbers of turtles are puted secured on private hands were no one can harm them and be bred for the species future. Many species of asian turtles would already been practicly wipped out if people werent securing captive populacions of them. Most have no future in wild in a very unfortunate way, at least in the near future, captive keeping will be excencial to keep them on the planet and to show them to our gran kids

Thats the problem, in captivity they are no longer part of the eco system. Who cares what is sitting in glass tanks in peoples basements? The important thing is to keep native populations thriving, not that they are forever available as pets.

 

[EricIvins]

Thats the problem, in captivity they are no longer part of the eco system. Who cares what is sitting in glass tanks in peoples basements? The important thing is to keep native populations thriving, not that they are forever available as pets.

The whole point is the fact that populations will never thrive with habitat destruction/alteration, and the fact that they are being eaten out of existance. So I myself would rather see them in captivity, than not see them at all............