any small colorful CAs ok with my SAs?

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you're not hijacking to add certain species to the question :-)
I think australoheros 'red ceibal' are very aggressive, whereas australoheros 'oblongum' aren't. oblongum display great range of color changes (+blues) I'm not sure if they'd do best @my constant 79F SA tank temperature.? but some ppl say they've less need of cool-down temps.
Panamensis are reportedly extremely aggressive for their genus toward conspecifics,, enough to go after heterospecifics too. I doubt(?) whether bachelorhood would diminish that enough for peaceful SA community. If anyone knows differently, I'd like to hear. they are gorgeous.
Cutteri would be too aggro as pairs in my type of SA community. don't know about bachelors.
However you already have dedicated tanks to move them to, if it's a wreck.
I'm not quite there ATM ;) Do have a couple alternate tanks, pending stands etc.

I don't know why I put the red ceibals on the list. I am going to dedicate an unheated 40 breeder to a pair. I made a post a week or so ago asking if anyone knew if they needed a cool down like gymnos do. The general consensus I got was that they should be kept in a unheated tank (since I live in Florida and it doesn't get cold enough to worry about) and that they should have a cool down period, but won't fade and die without one like most gymnos will.

My red ceibal male is 4" and both females are 3-3.5". They are temporarily living with a heckelii and a Cutter until I get my recently purchased 75 up and running. So far they have been perfect tankmates. They aren't hostile to each other or anyone else (knock on wood). But I have noticed both females coloring up quite a bit in the last couple days, which I am assuming is likely breeding dress. So I am rushing to get the 75 running so they don't turn murderous.

My panamensis are in a tank all to themselves, so I couldn't comment on aggression. But the male (3.5") and one female (3") seem very skittish while the second female (2") is very outgoing. I haven't witnessed aggression between them yet (knock on wood again).

The cutteri is on his own in the red ceibal tank for now, but I have taken a real liking to his subtle pastel colors and want to get another two of them as soon as I vent it to find out its gender.

I may just do a 150+ gallon tank with the aggressive Cryptoheros I have and add a few bachelor fish. Maybe a solitary salvini and a JD or something along those lines. CA cichlids have not interested me much until recently, so I am open to suggestions for bachelors (either SA or CA) that would do well with a breeding pair of panamensis and a breeding pair of cutteri in a 6' tank.


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I don't know why I put the red ceibals on the list. wishful dreaming ;) ]I am going to dedicate an unheated 40 breeder to a pair. I made a post a week or so ago asking if anyone knew if they needed a cool down like gymnos do. The general consensus I got was that they should be kept in a unheated tank (since I live in Florida and it doesn't get cold enough to worry about) and that they should have a cool down period, but won't fade and die without one like most gymnos will. I turned up the same info, but also that 'oblongum' are the better suited for warm temps

My red ceibal male is 4" and both females are 3-3.5". They are temporarily living with a heckelii and a Cutter until I get my recently purchased 75 up and running. So far they have been perfect tankmates. They aren't hostile to each other or anyone else (knock on wood). interesting..But I have noticed both females coloring up quite a bit in the last couple days, which I am assuming is likely breeding dress. So I am rushing to get the 75 running so they don't turn murderous.

My panamensis are in a tank all to themselves, so I couldn't comment on aggression. But the male (3.5") and one female (3") seem very skittish while the second female (2") is very outgoing. I haven't witnessed aggression between them yet (knock on wood again). Sam Borstein, on them: "Archocentrus panamensis is an easy fish to keep although they are extremely aggressive. A large tank is needed. Archocentrus panamensis seems to be mostly aggressive within its own species, but will go after other fish. If you want to keep them with something, look for a fast fish that can take a beating....Males can also turn on females rather quickly....They are nasty, pretty, and easy to keep. If you like members of the convict like fishes you will love these guys. I do recommend keeping an easier species similar to convicts first, because these can be difficult to deal with."
Too bad. I'd love to keep a lone male ;-)


The cutteri is on his own in the red ceibal tank for now, but I have taken a real liking to his subtle pastel colors and want to get another two of them as soon as I vent it to find out its gender.a bachelor might work for my current situation. Cichlid Profiles says: "...will stock well as an individual in community tanks. More than one individual of this species in a tank, is best kept as a member of an established/compatible pair, as conspecific aggression is very high.."

I may just do a 150+ gallon tank with the aggressive Cryptoheros I have and add a few bachelor fish. Maybe a solitary salvini and a JD or something along those lines. CA cichlids have not interested me much until recently, so I am open to suggestions for bachelors (either SA or CA) that would do well with a breeding pair of panamensis and a breeding pair of cutteri in a 6' tank.
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I have got a single male T Bar cichlid in in my SA tank and he can certainly hold his own against a much bigger chocolate cichlid and geo, tends to chase the smaller geos about but only when they get in his way. They also have a lot of character and my male has plenty of colour! one of my fav fish!!


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