Anybody else notice this with orino coloration?

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jcardona1

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so in my never ending quest for bad ass orinos, ive gone through 20+ different orinos. i now currently have 7 big guys, which are some of the best i have ever seen, in person and online. i mentioned this before and im not sure if anybody caught it, but ive pretty much narrowed it down two variations of the common Orinoco orino that we currently have.

so.....my theory is that we basically will find orinos with red lower fins and orinos with blue/gold lower fins. i have seen that those that lack the red lower fins are generally more vibrant in the green color, almost a metallic green. these guys also have the solid bright blue mohawk.

the orinos that i have seen with the red lower fins are usually a more drab green and dont have as much blue as the other guys. the dorsal fin on these guys usually contains a lot of black in the front half of the fin. here's some pics. both of these fish are pretty much the same size, but the color is very very different.

any thoughts? anybody got pics to prove or bust my crackhead theory???? :)

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yea i have noticed how some orinos are a more vibrant green than others. cool post. possibly another species?
 
ericifish;3610001;3610001 said:
yea i have noticed how some orinos are a more vibrant green than others. cool post. possibly another species?
who knows, theres really no way of knowing. but i do think it could be a different variety of the fish that come out of the orinoco. i actually owned both of these fish, but i currently only have the guy on top
 
yeah! thats why i no longer own the guy on the bottom ;) the guy on the top is one of my best looking
 
jcardona1;3610018; said:
yeah! thats why i no longer own the guy on the bottom ;) the guy on the top is one of my best looking

thats why i own the guy on the bottom:irked: haha jk , i love it, except as u told me already , its total boss , beatin up my tarpon... gotta find it a new home...

in the pic though, it was taken with a flash , so that washes out some green...

heres an update pic of it... i find him more golden with slight hint of green sheen than "drab green" ... .but i agree that he does have a black mohawk and red bottom fins

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mine have some red/orange on the bottom fins, sometimes the front half of their dorsals can be black. but boy they have blue fins and metallic green bodies. usually they have red azz bloodshot eyes. not in these pics thou i just switched the lights on. the intensity of their occels vary from the pics to pitch black. they are also supposed to get really intense dark green. in these pics, they are barely a week into my tank. but at the farm they were in, the colours were insane. really intense green. slighly darker than in the pics, very much like in the video.

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some orinos from the local scene. the mean greens are more or less from the same source as mine. black first half of dorsal, green azz bodies and lower fins not-necessarily devoid of red/orange.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTuzcbb6l94&feature=player_embedded

http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=319135&highlight=orinocensis

you could try the "peacock bass thread", dont know if you can view the pics thou. and if you have issues with the slang just let me know i'll clear it up:)
 
i was thinking some distant natural crossing between different species thus the absence/presence of body and fin coloration
maybe some crossing with intermedia for the the green/blue coloration and crossing with kelberi/mono for the red/brownish coloration...just a thought comparing the colors with other species another reason collection site could be helpful with predicting adult coloration by looking at other species that frequent the area
 
THere is a LOT of variance within each species of cichla, in part due to locality, or specific populations, but also within a batch of fry from the same parents. At that point it also depends on what grows up to pass on its genes and traits.

My opinion is these are simply from different locales. Tie in area's where they overlap and interbreed giving variances from one end to the other.

LL
 
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