Anybody into weight lifting/body building?

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I got a tub of The Curse and a tub of C4 i gotta burn through before I buy anything new though.. I'll have to give that a look!

If you want a gnarly preworkout, try maximize intense! It's pretty much crack.

I'm 14. My bench is 145 squat 225 and deadlift is 255. I don't lift regularly anymore since football.


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That's pretty damn good for 14 man! I never lifted weights when I was your age but I did a lot of calisthenics



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I would be very careful with preworkout supplements if any of you are high school or college athletes. I wrestled and played football in college and know of many guys who failed urine tests due to them. Some of those supplements are fine I'm sure, just be careful. I personally try to buy "pure" substances and then mix my own supplements (i.e. buy glutamine, creatine, caffeine, etc. separately and then mix according to solid research, making changes based on my body's response). This lowers the chance that things are being added that are not listed in the ingredients, especially in those "proprietary blends." Who knows what is actually in those.

Also, as a USA weightlifting coach I will pass along some advice for the guys (and gals) who are just starting out, and even those who have been at it for a long time. Make sure you are using correct form and get FLEXIBLE. Flexibility is the most neglected aspect of weight training, and it pays so many dividends, especially injury prevention. You can never be too flexible (I'm not including increased flexibility due to injury or loose joints, that's entirely different). Most top athletes have entire workouts dedicated to just flexibility, and you would be surprised at how fatiguing they actually are.

This may be a controversial statement to some, but if you want the best overall body workout it is hard to beat the Big 4: cleans, jerks (careful with your low back), squats, and bench (many even exclude this one). You must use correct form, but once you get the form and set a good workout plan you will begin having some of the most efficient lifts possible. Doing each of these lifts once per week, with some peripheral lifts/stretching added in each day will provide incredible power and body control over a short period of time. Exactly what you want as an athlete. Maybe not the best for bodybuilders, but just about everyone else - including those who are past their prime.
 
I would be very careful with preworkout supplements if any of you are high school or college athletes. I wrestled and played football in college and know of many guys who failed urine tests due to them. Some of them are fine I'm sure, just be careful.

Also, as a USA weightlifting coach I will pass along some advice for the guys (and gals) who are still in high school, and even beginning college. Make sure you are using correct form and get FLEXIBLE. Flexibility is the most neglected aspect of weight training, and it pays so many dividends, especially injury prevention.

This may be a controversial statement to some, but if you want the best overall body workout it is hard to beat the Big 4: cleans, jerks (careful with form), squats, and bench (many exclude this one even). You must use correct form, but once you get the form and set a good workout plan you will begin having some of the most efficient lifts possible. Doing each of these lifts once per week, with some peripheral lifts/stretching added in each day will provide incredible power and body control. Exactly what you want as an athlete. Maybe not for bodybuilders, but just about everyone else.

Sounds a lot like BFS.. although we never did jerks in that program. Just Hang cleans and the other ones.
 
I edited my post as you responded, but yes the BFS program is based on power lifting. As a personal weight lifting coach I am very careful with jerks. If not done correctly they can wreak havoc on the lower back, so I do regularly leave them out depending on the athlete. If I do include them it is almost always low weight, high reps - especially starting out. I actually only have one athlete who does heavy jerks, but he is also a freak of nature. He is going to be a freshman in college and can bench press 405 x 2, weighing only 195lbs and he still has some growing to do based on his parents. He was recruited to play football, but has decided to focus on his lifting. He is thinking about lifting competitions and/or bodybuilding.
 
While we're on the BFS subject, What is your opinion on lifting that program (Bench, Squat, Clean) Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, along with concentrated muscle groups on the same days like this: Chest/Shoulders (Monday), Back/Calves(T), Arms(W), Legs (minus Parallel squat)[Th], Chest again(F), Arms again (S). This is what i do weekly six days a week. Too much?

I enjoy BFS just because of the fact you can throw on a ton of weight per rep, but I much prefer the body building style lifts.
 
I would be very careful with preworkout supplements if any of you are high school or college athletes. I wrestled and played football in college and know of many guys who failed urine tests due to them. Some of those supplements are fine I'm sure, just be careful. I personally try to buy "pure" substances and then mix my own supplements (i.e. buy glutamine, creatine, caffeine, etc. separately and then mix according to solid research, making changes based on my body's response). This lowers the chance that things are being added that are not listed in the ingredients, especially in those "proprietary blends." Who knows what is actually in those.

Also, as a USA weightlifting coach I will pass along some advice for the guys (and gals) who are just starting out, and even those who have been at it for a long time. Make sure you are using correct form and get FLEXIBLE. Flexibility is the most neglected aspect of weight training, and it pays so many dividends, especially injury prevention. You can never be too flexible (I'm not including increased flexibility due to injury or loose joints, that's entirely different). Most top athletes have entire workouts dedicated to just flexibility, and you would be surprised at how fatiguing they actually are.

This may be a controversial statement to some, but if you want the best overall body workout it is hard to beat the Big 4: cleans, jerks (careful with your low back), squats, and bench (many even exclude this one). You must use correct form, but once you get the form and set a good workout plan you will begin having some of the most efficient lifts possible. Doing each of these lifts once per week, with some peripheral lifts/stretching added in each day will provide incredible power and body control over a short period of time. Exactly what you want as an athlete. Maybe not the best for bodybuilders, but just about everyone else - including those who are past their prime.

I agree 100% on this! I actually don't take preworkout at all anymore cuz I find myself constantly having to up the dose cuz my body gets used to it so far. I'm not a coach but I am a personal trainer and the first thing I do with new clients before we even get into any real lifting is to make sure they have correct form. People can throw on as much weight as they want but if their form isn't right, it's not gonna do anything and will most likely hurt them. Flexibility definitely is a work out on its own. I used to do yoga twice a week and I always came out of that sweatier and more exhausted than any lifting day I've ever done.


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