no, she hasn't mentioned suicide. i'm not worried about it, she loves our daughter too much to do that to her. She went to a counselor/dr once and said she wouldnt go back. she said he went back to her childhood and she refuses to talk about it again. i've been doing some research and taking advice from others online and alot of the advice is similar to what ya'll are saying. i was dead set on the meds but i never took into consideration any other possibilities. sunday was one of the best days we have had in a long time and today was nice too. We took our daughter to the apt tennis court to ride her bike and my wife actually played along and even got on my 3year olds bike and acted goofy. (she never does that) we went to the mall and had fun. she smiled, laughed and seemed like her old self. i'm hoping this improves. thank you all so much for the advice. not many people like to talk about it or admit that it is part of their life so thank you again.