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could be interesting for fish experiments :P

fish swims here he gets food, fish swims there it turns on a bright as strobe light, fish does nothing and we just :popcorn:
 
coeus;3557495; said:
could be interesting for fish experiments :P

fish swims here he gets food, fish swims there it turns on a bright as strobe light, fish does nothing and we just :popcorn:

Actually, I was just talking about that... If a fish trips a motion sensor... then a light (LED) comes on in the area of the tank, but if you put 10 lights above the tank... all different colors, do you think that the fish would actually stay around the color that he likes the most? so if this works.. in theory, you guys with the larger tanks... could actually have multiple areas in your tank that only 1 type of fish stay in... wouldn't that be cool?
 
Hmm, would have to make sure not to stock it with a bala shark. Everytime you turn on the lights a piano would be crashing. :D
 
if this works you would actually have my interest. especially if u add lights to work with it!
 
Very interesting, and would be interesting to see how many species would respond to such a thing. sound waves, an light would be an interesting combo. I wonder if my Oscar would make classical music.. or heavy metal =D
 
MonsterMinis;3557891; said:
Very interesting, and would be interesting to see how many species would respond to such a thing. sound waves, an light would be an interesting combo. I wonder if my Oscar would make classical music.. or heavy metal =D

Well, I've researched this a lot, and as long as there are no high tone and you keep it with soft tones and mellow, it won't harm the fish or stress them out. That's why I'm going with Ambients. Technically you'll be able to put anything you want on it, but the tracks I'll be releasing for it will be custom made for this unit... just to make sure the fish aren't harmed or stressed out. I think it's the best way. Each setup will have 10-20 different tones and such, and it will be able to be turned on and off easily, and yes, just because I'm weird, one of those tones will be ocean waves:) Maybe have nature instead... that just popped into my head, so it would be a single ambient track, and as the fish swim it adds in nature noices... that could be another 'option' I could have within the unit.
 
Just my humble opinion, but:
I would like to see a frequency change with vertical position of the fish and tempo change with amount of movement, if the sound signal pulses. I wouldn't bother with preset tracks, that seems too gimmicky. The aquarium should be the sole dictator of the music. If the fish hold still, it should be quiet. but still lit. This would likely work best with one fish only, right?
As for light, I would set up a full-spectrum system (three bulb?) whose sensor takes the length of the aquarium and equates it to a given range of visible light. So the tank looks red when the fish is on the left of the tank and violet when he swims to the right, fading through all colors as he goes across. At this point, a fishkeeper would know where the fish is in the tank by ambient light and change in pitch of sound. He would also know how active the fish is by speed of tone production. The only dimension left is width. I would assign that to a volume control so that the tone and light are brightest when fish is toward the front panel and quieter, dimmer when he is near the back panel.

Now we can watch as the fish learns to control the tank and ultimately chooses one corner as its favorite. :)
 
knifegill;3558121; said:
Just my humble opinion, but:
I would like to see a frequency change with vertical position of the fish and tempo change with amount of movement, if the sound signal pulses. I wouldn't bother with preset tracks, that seems too gimmicky. The aquarium should be the sole dictator of the music. If the fish hold still, it should be quiet. but still lit. This would likely work best with one fish only, right?
As for light, I would set up a full-spectrum system (three bulb?) whose sensor takes the length of the aquarium and equates it to a given range of visible light. So the tank looks red when the fish is on the left of the tank and violet when he swims to the right, fading through all colors as he goes across. At this point, a fishkeeper would know where the fish is in the tank by ambient light and change in pitch of sound. He would also know how active the fish is by speed of tone production. The only dimension left is width. I would assign that to a volume control so that the tone and light are brightest when fish is toward the front panel and quieter, dimmer when he is near the back panel.

Now we can watch as the fish learns to control the tank and ultimately chooses one corner as its favorite. :)

It's a valid idea, but keeping in mind that this still hasn't been done yet, and that would take a junk load of time. I'm sure when I get the first one working and it is operational, I could find a system to 'mod' the style you'd like. This is a very open ended idea and I'll be able to take custom orders for that type of setup.

The first thing to get done is a very basic model that I can build off. The problem you'd have is fish dislike 'pulsing' sounds. I think that would cause a fair bit of stress. The reason for set tracks is so that they can be tested and made sure not to introduce annoyance to the fish... and me:) So to keep it simple with a sound that the fish 'control' for the most part and would sound good also.

This setup would most likely be used for multiple fish, as a single fish would only strike one sound at a time, which isn't a good mix unless you like midi files (beeps).

Thanks for the ideas, I'll see if I can achieve a full spectrum that moves through out the tank later down the road.

Thanks again!
 
Cool. And why would the speaker have to be near the tank? We could easily mount it anywhere in the room. The fish may not even need to know it is there. Then you could do any sort of noise you wanted, nature tracks or monster truck revs, shotgun blasts or the theme track to the Duke's of Hazzard. ;)

Actually, I wasn't necessarily imagining beeps, more like a sampled piano keystrike or gentle bell tone put through a pitch shifter.
 
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