Anyone use Ken's Fish Food?

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I tend to mix my food. I have tried many types and NLS is the first pellet my guy has turned down. I mix 5-6 types ussually because they offer different things. Just make sure you check ingrediants and compare. Don't waste time on foods if they all offer the same thing.
 
I've been using Kensfish food for years (as well as buying all sorts of other fish stuff from him).

Based on information I learned here (from RD.), I've moved away from some of his foods and shifted to others. For example, his color pellets have way too much FAT (which can lead to fatty deposits on the liver, a leading cause of death)....but his Tropheus Lovers Flake is a really high quality food.

I order NLS and Extreme from him as well. Goldenpearls, which he sells, are the best fry food I've ever used.

He has so many formulations...and lists the formulations and nutritional info for each...just choose wisely.

Matt
 
Based on information I learned here (from RD.), I've moved away from some of his foods and shifted to others. For example, his color pellets have way too much FAT (which can lead to fatty deposits on the liver, a leading cause of death)....but his Tropheus Lovers Flake is a really high quality food.
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Matt, after taking a look at the ingredients and analysis of the Tropheus Lovers Flake food, I'm curious as to what would lead you to believe that this formula is a "really high quality food"?

Ken's Premium Tropheus Lovers Flake

Ingredients: fish meal, dried brewers yeast, soy flour, wheat flour, oat flour, corn gluten meal, dried spirulina algea, shrimp meal, dried krill, fish oil, lecithin, vitamin supplements a, d3, b12, biotin, natural coloring, ascorbic acid (source of vitamin c). Guaranteed analysis: crude protein 45.0% min., crude fat 4.0% min., crude fiber 3.0% max., moisture 8.0% max. All natural ingredients, except for some artificial coloring. No preservatives.
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While I understand that flakes require a binding agent, IMO there is no need for the soy flour, oat flour, corn gluten meal, or a massive amount of dried brewers yeast (the second ingredient listed by weight) What you have is a food that appears to be very high in starch/carb content. Also, going off of that ingredient list the only reason that food is green, is due to artificial coloring. IMHO that formula is at best a middle of the road food.



Someone earlier on in this discussion mentioned the earthworm food, yet when you take a close look at the earthworm sticks the amount of actual earthworms is somewhat questionable.

Ken's Premium Earthworm Sticks

Ingredients: white fish meal, fish protein concentrate, wheat flour, soy flour, gluten, dried brewer's yeast, frozen baby brine shrimp, plankton, shrimp, krill powder mix, earthworms, kelp meal, dried spirulina, fish oil, lecithin. The following vitamins/mineral supplements a, d-3, b1, b12, choline hcl, & biotin methionine. Vegetable protein. Thiamine (source of vitamin b1). Asorbic acid (source of vitamin c). Guaranteed analysis: crude protein 45.0% min., crude fat 4.1% min., crude fiber 4.2% max., moisture 8.2% max. All natural ingredients, except for some artificial coloring. No preservatives.


This is not about one brand vs other brands, nor am I questioning the results anyone has experienced with any of these products. My comments are soley geared towards assisting hobbyists in making informed decisions when researching the topic of fish food/nutrition.
 
Hey RD - thanks for the post. I plan to be ordering from Ken's for my next month's stock of fish food, what ingredients should I be looking for and what should I be looking to stay away from?

I'm viewing this as I view dog food - for example Iams. It's a good dog food, sure there are better out there, but there are also a lot worse out there too.
 
I can't say anything bad about kens, I found them very fast and super cheap. My catfish wont touch any of the pellets I got from kens and i think I tried 4 diff types, but he's only been eating massivore and shrimp since I've had him. I was hoping it would work if I mixed them together, but so far nothing, I don't think it's so much that kens are bad, just not as good as the 70$ bags of massivore
 
That's the impression I'm getting, it's not bad, but it can't hold up against NLS and such. But NLS can't hold up against Ken's in terms of price.
 
My main decision point was moving from higher to lower crude fat content Ken's foods. The Tropheus lovers has a relatively high amt of spirulina and a relatively low level of crude fat. And it's relatively inexpensive. I agree with your assessment - overall it's a less than high quality food. But my fish like it...and it won't kill them!

I primarily feed NLS and Extreme (and live red wiggler worms). And I DON'T feed Ken's Color Pellets anymore...too much fat :)

Matt

RD. said:
Matt, after taking a look at the ingredients and analysis of the Tropheus Lovers Flake food, I'm curious as to what would lead you to believe that this formula is a "really high quality food"?

Ken's Premium Tropheus Lovers Flake



While I understand that flakes require a binding agent, IMO there is no need for the soy flour, oat flour, corn gluten meal, or a massive amount of dried brewers yeast (the second ingredient listed by weight) What you have is a food that appears to be very high in starch/carb content. Also, going off of that ingredient list the only reason that food is green, is due to artificial coloring. IMHO that formula is at best a middle of the road food.



Someone earlier on in this discussion mentioned the earthworm food, yet when you take a close look at the earthworm sticks the amount of actual earthworms is somewhat questionable.

Ken's Premium Earthworm Sticks

Ingredients: white fish meal, fish protein concentrate, wheat flour, soy flour, gluten, dried brewer's yeast, frozen baby brine shrimp, plankton, shrimp, krill powder mix, earthworms, kelp meal, dried spirulina, fish oil, lecithin. The following vitamins/mineral supplements a, d-3, b1, b12, choline hcl, & biotin methionine. Vegetable protein. Thiamine (source of vitamin b1). Asorbic acid (source of vitamin c). Guaranteed analysis: crude protein 45.0% min., crude fat 4.1% min., crude fiber 4.2% max., moisture 8.2% max. All natural ingredients, except for some artificial coloring. No preservatives.


This is not about one brand vs other brands, nor am I questioning the results anyone has experienced with any of these products. My comments are soley geared towards assisting hobbyists in making informed decisions when researching the topic of fish food/nutrition.
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Aqualoon - you have a PM. Most of this has already been beat to death in the past, and I'm not looking for another 40 page debate. :)


Matt, in all honesty there is no telling how much spirulina is in that flake, unless you are privy to info from the actual manufacturer. Without that info all one can safely say is that the ONLY aquatic based plant matter in that flake is spirulina, and that ingredient is listed on the label (by weight) as being the 7th ingredient.
 
Customer service is non-existent with Ken's fish. No call back , no response to email. I will not deal with them again in the future regardless of their prices on food or equipments.
 
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