Anything wrong with this pleco?

[Jackson]

That's just a coincidence, as you can see in the 2nd to last pic I posted, they change to the same color reguardless of the color of their surroundings.


Again, just a coincidence.

No coincidence. It's fact they change colour based on their surroundings including substrates. I'm not saying it looks like this just because of that. It's their natural colour. I am saying if the substrate was much darker the fish would be as well.

Your argument is going no where.

This fish looks healthy.

 

[jclyde13]

No coincidence. It's fact they change colour based on their surroundings including substrates. I'm not saying it looks like this just because of that. It's their natural colour. I am saying if the substrate was much darker the fish would be as well.

Your argument is going no where.

This fish looks healthy.

Okay, I see you just want to make this an arguement, and since I've recently decided to try and stop getting into arguements here, I'm just going say: I have kept many plecos in many different setups in the past and there has never been an environment-based difference in coloration between them, and I'll leave it at that.

 

[Jackson]

Okay, I see you just want to make this an arguement, and since I've recently decided to try and stop getting into arguements here, I'm just going say: I have kept many plecos in many different setups in the past and there has never been an environment-based difference in coloration between them, and I'll leave it at that.

Good for you!

 

[jalepeno]

Sorta an interesting topic now that I don't have to worry about this pleco lol.

I've noticed a lot of people go with black backgrounds and black sand/gravel to make the colours of fish pop. Would you say that the colours pop more due to contrast, or because the fish actually are responding to a darker environment.

I would have to say that some fish do respond to environment such as sand colour. I don't know myself if plecos do though.

 

[jclyde13]

Good for you!

Thanks!

 

[jclyde13]

Sorta an interesting topic now that I don't have to worry about this pleco lol.

I've noticed a lot of people go with black backgrounds and black sand/gravel to make the colours of fish pop. Would you say that the colours pop more due to contrast, or because the fish actually are responding to a darker environment.

I would have to say that some fish do respond to environment such as sand colour. I don't know myself if plecos do though.

It depends on the species. With certain species (EBJD's , for example) the fish actually responds to the darker environment and becomes drastically darker and more colorful, whereas in other species (like senegal bichirs), it causes a much more subtle change, and in others (like most plecos) it makes very little difference at all, besides effecting how bright the tank looks (which effects how the fish's color is perceived).

 

[Jackson]

It depends on the species. With certain species (EBJD's , for example) the fish actually responds to the darker environment and becomes drastically darker and more colorful, whereas in other species (like senegal bichirs), it causes a much more subtle change, and in others (like most plecos) it makes very little difference at all, besides effecting how bright the tank looks (which effects how the fish's color is perceived).

In regards to the plecos. It also makes a big difference in many species. I don't know how you have come to this conclusion. You are giving out faulty information. Water chemistry, colour of surroundings, diet and lighting will effect many species out there. I am not talking about how our eyes perceive it.

Also many ploys will change their colour drastically depending on what substrate is under them. There was a huge thread on one of the forums showing these affects with a few different species of polys.

 

[CLDarnell]

Hmmm, my sand is as white as snow (ok, not THAT white, but close!) and my Plecos are very dark with very distinct patterns. Though they are always happy-go-lucky, I have seen them "splotch" occasionally. I definitely see environment effecting color versus substrate/background. (I do agree that certain fish will "blend" with background colors, but I don't see it in my Plecos).

 

[jclyde13]

In regards to the plecos. It also makes a big difference in many species. I don't know how you have come to this conclusion. You are giving out faulty information. Water chemistry, colour of surroundings, diet and lighting will effect many species out there. I am not talking about how our eyes perceive it.

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Getting upset, are we?

Also many ploys will change their colour drastically depending on what substrate is under them. There was a huge thread on one of the forums showing these affects with a few different species of polys

Yes I am aware of that. What I was saying, was that with P. senegalus in particular, the change is much more subtle than the change that occurs with EBJD's. This would not be true if I would have said the same for ornates, palmas, etc. but I was referring specifically to P. senegalus, from my own personal experience.

Anyway, it'd really be nice if you'd take a more pleasant tone... Honestly, what do you think you're going to achieve by making this a hostile arguement?

 

[Jackson]

Hmmm, my sand is as white as snow (ok, not THAT white, but close!) and my Plecos are very dark with very distinct patterns. Though they are always happy-go-lucky, I have seen them "splotch" occasionally. I definitely see environment effecting color versus substrate/background. (I do agree that certain fish will "blend" with background colors, but I don't see it in my Plecos).

Not all species respond the same way.

As you said a happy fish will also show stronger colours. I am not saying only substrates affect colour.

I too have a few hypostomus that I keep in tank with light colored substrate. It took them a long time to colour up. They are now what I would consider normal colour. But to say that the substrate won't affect any pleco is wrong. That's what I will not agree with.