Apple snails banned in MN

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realistically could an apple snail actually survive in the wild in MN? Hell I can barely survive some winter and I've been here for 30 years....
 
USDA-APHIS now require a permit for shipping all snails interstate. This includes all marine and freshwater snails.

Permits will not be issued for the genus Pomacea except P. bridgesii, spike-topped apple snail that are a minimum of 1.4 inches or 3.5 cm long.

Snails must be labeled, packaged for no escapees and may require a permit fee.

Permits will be issued for 3 years. No cost for permit. A copy of permit or the permit number must accompany each shipment.

Permits are available online, but you have to take a photo ID to an office near you for completion.

Terrestrial snails of the phylum Gastropoda do not need permits.

Shippers are strongly encouraged to use the e-permit system: http://www.aphis.usda.gov/permits/learn_epermits.shtml

Applications are made to ship Identified genus and species to a state, not an individual receiver. USDA-APHIS contacts the state to determine whether that state allows the species within its borders.

There is no fee for interstate shipments, but there may be a fee to import aquatic snails.

The receiver is encouraged to have a copy of permit or permit number on file.

There is no grace period. Aquatic snail shipments that do not include a permit are subject to seizure, quarantine, exportation, return to shipping point of origin, destruction, or other disposal.

E-permit applications may take 30 - 45 days to be issued. Paper applications via mail may take 60 - 70 days. There is the possibility of getting permit issuance quicker once a state has approved receiving a particular species of snail.

Snails unintentionally shipped with aquatic plants would not need a permit.

Much of the foregoing is copied word for word from the May/June 2006 issue of Florida Fish Farmer, The Florida Tropical Fish Farms Association Newsletter, PO Box 1519, Winter Haven, Florida 33882.
 
Thanks for the info, veneer.
 
At the moment it seems to be basically a few species. i have had to check into this somewhat since i've been keeping cana and insularum and a couple other species. At the moment i dont have any but i do have mystery snails which arent under the ban yet. some chain stores have stopped carrying them until the bugs get worked out.

my mysteries are just about to start breeding and i wanted to know if i was going to need a permit for them. i'll probably do so anyway just in case. cant hurt to cover the bases.

jason

PS i doubt they could survive a harsh michigan winter but i've heard of stranger things and anyone who has seen a tank of baby cana feed will understand farmers fields...those things are water goats..if its green or dead they'll eat it. i fed my a head of some green veggie once a day...an whole head mind you, a few smelt, some shrimp pellets and a calcium tablet and it would be gone with it 24 hours. all i had was about 400 babies snails about dime size. adults are much much worse.

it doesnt please me that they banned them, it really rather pisses me off to be honest but i can understand the reasoning even if i dont appreciate it atm.

jason
 
I hope the mystery snails start getting sold again, I need more snails. If anyone in MN has trumpet snails they want to get rid of, let me know.
 
It is illegal to transport apple snails into Oklahoma, but if you find someone that already has them, and they have been here since before the ban began, then you can buy the babies and it is legal. Kind of a strange law, i don't see how they ever planned on enforcing it, its not like you can ask the snails if they were born out of state. And at the moment its only against apple snails (which to my knowledge take a male and female to breed) and not any other snails that can breed "A" sexualy. You would think the bigger threat would be the snails that don't need more than one sex to breed.
 
Veneer;462074; said:
Much of the foregoing is copied word for word from the May/June 2006 issue of Florida Fish Farmer, The Florida Tropical Fish Farms Association Newsletter, PO Box 1519, Winter Haven, Florida 33882.

yea, they haven't come into delaware fish shops in a few months because of the afformentioned legislation. however, last week I saw a permit from one store saying that they will be able to be imported soon. luckily, my neighbors pond is chock full of them, and my puffer loves them!
 
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