AR 15 owners need your advice

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Racking your shotgun is one of the best things you can do.

Remember that if in a self defense situation your goal is to stop the threat. It is NOT to kill or injure the person creating the threat. You want to do the minimal you can possibly do to stop the threat. I carry pepper spray in addition to my concealed handgun because many situations would warrant pepper spray before a handgun. Remember that no matter what happens you will end up in court defending your decision and if all you did was blow a hole in the body in the dark you will probably end up in jail or prison paying the guy what he wins when he sues you.

If someone breaks in you do not want to kill them, you want them to leave. If they prove to you that the only way they are no longer a threat is if you shoot them THEN you shoot them. If all it takes is you yelling 'We are home, get the F*** out, I am calling the cops' then that is all you should do. If all it takes is you racking the shotgun that is all you want to do. Few criminals who are not high on drugs will hear a shotgun rack and stick around to wait for you to prove to them it is what it sounds like. Trust me, this is a better situation to explain to the cops then 'I heard him, I could tell he was in this room, so I stuck the shotgun in the door and pulled the trigger'.

Every situation is different. You can be the most prepared person in the world and someone who breaks in freaks out when they hear you snoring and just blows your head off as you sleep, regardless of the weapon sitting next to the bed or how it's loaded. But your goal is to be a responsible gun owner. This means doing everything possible to NOT use it on a person EVER. Only in an extreme situation where there is no doubt that if you don't pull the trigger fast enough you WILL be dead should you attempt to use a weapon to stop a person who is a threat to your life (not shoot to kill them, just to stop them).

I own a Colt AR-15 Target Match Hbar and I love it. It is for long range accuracy, not for tactical use. I carry a Ruger LCR 5 shot revolver .38special with internal hammer. I chose it because it is small enought to carry into clients' homes for my business without them knowing, or anywhere else for that matter. It may not be the biggest or have the highest capacity, but it is comfortable enough to carry all the time. This means I actually will. It doesn't matter if you have a .45 or a 20 round 9mm if it is not comfortable enough to carry all the time.

There is a revolver that holds .410 shotgun shells. This gives you the home defense safety of a shotgun in the small(er) package and reliability of a revolver. It is not a small gun, so it is not the best option for many people. But if you can handle it you may want to consider it as your primary home defense weapon.

Lights and lasers on your weapon should be chosen carefully. In your home that laser or light coming around the corner tells the bad guy exactly where you are and what you have. They are now in a life and death situation and you have a bright target in front of you. It is best to have a hand held light (if your weapon can allow this) and hold it out to your side so that if they shoot at the light they will likely miss you. As an alternative (such as with a shotgun) very dim night lights in your home can allow you to see just enough to find a target without having a light in front of you to tell him where you are.
 
Interesting points Reptileguy.I once debated with a co worker about handguns and self defense.He said something to the effect that if you are going to be armed and prepared to shoot someone then you'd better be prepared to defend yourself in court.It's pretty bad when you shoot an intruder and find yourself on the wrong side of the law.
 
Unfortunately gun control laws are out there because people have proven that they needed them, and now we all get them. There are unfortunate incidents of people shooting and killing when it was unwarranted. A kid comes home late and makes just a little too much noise, dad thinks it is the stereotypical scenario of a bad guy breaking in at night, and BAM! shoots his own kid dead in the kitchen. This happens to a stranger who happens to be one of the kid's friends and dad gets charged and sued, ends up in prison, and a new law is added to the books.

The problem is that too many people have a generic situation in their head and they simply wait for it. This leads to them not being ready for all the other bad situations in the world AND pigeonholing innocent situations into that bad situation they have always had in their head.
 
Yeah I've heard of those unfortunate scenarios but they are different from shooting and killing a real and armed burglar in your home.It does not seem to be as cut and dry in this city as one might think.It could get you in a whole mess of trouble...I tell friends and co workers to be careful with their permits as it does not give them a "license to kill,"so to speak.It almost seems that the laws are against the law abiding citizen here.
 
krichardson;5072846; said:
Yeah I've heard of those unfortunate scenarios but they are different from shooting and killing a real and armed burglar in your home.It does not seem to be as cut and dry in this city as one might think.It could get you in a whole mess of trouble...I tell friends and co workers to be careful with their permits as it does not give them a "license to kill,"so to speak.It almost seems that the laws are against the law abiding citizen here.

Laws are different depending on where you live so know your laws.

The general rule everywhere however is that force should be proportional to the threat. Property offenses are generally not considered as justification for Deadly force, However a few states under "castle doctrine laws" do list it as such. (Florida is an example, Michigan does not)

In any case, no matter what it is, if you discharge a firearm in self defense you will have a legal situation on your hands. Do NOT talk to the police without a Lawyer present under any circumstance.
 
I wish I could own an AR 15 here in NJ...I think Automatic weapons are illegal here.
 
Peacock Rey;5073138; said:
I wish I could own an AR 15 here in NJ...I think Automatic weapons are illegal here.
They just just might be but most if not all of the AR's that were discussed here are semi-auto which might be legal in your area.Look into it.
 
krichardson;5073276; said:
They just just might be but most if not all of the AR's that were discussed here are semi-auto which might be legal in your area.Look into it.

If they are semi auto then they are legal. The other problem is getting a permit around here. They are kinda hard to give them out because of the gang problems around here. I want to get one for target practice and to release stress lol and for home protection.
 
Refusing to say anything to the police can do some harm too though. An otherwise straight forward case can be complicated by a homeowner who refuses to talk. Police are just trying to do their job and if you are uncooperative this makes their job harder and can look very suspicious. I have always heard to give short, simple answers and make it clear that you thought you were going to die. Any answers should be completely factual 'I heard the front door glass break, I told my wife to call 911, I told him to get out of my house, he charged me and that is when I saw the gun in his hand pointed right at me and I fired'. If they keep pushing then politely say that you would prefer to wait until your lawyer arrives. A homeowner who won't answer simple questions like 'were you asleep?', 'did he have a weapon?', 'do you know this person?', etc can be too suspicious for a police officer to tolerate. Doing this to the wrong cop in the wrong case can lead to charges being brought on you as well as the bad guy.
 
One of the few good things about Indiana is that homeowners are rarely charged for shooting someone who has broken into your home. Personally I subscribe to the theory its your story versus his so you better being the only person able to tell his story.
 
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