I meant point taken literally... I've read this forum almost daily for years, although i don't post too much, because so many deteriorate into, basically you shouldn't keep fish that big lectures, which I never understand why would people belong to MFK then..... anyway, my point is, I know you know exactly what you are talking about and I respect your points. Although I have general knowledge, I don't have the specific trial and error knowledge you have.... plan on making a few changes and moving him into 180 this weekend. And although I still won't be making any major indoor pond or pool set up decisions right away, still waiting to sort out job situation, and possible move in the next few months, but I will make a point to be more ready sooner then later.