ray777;1122900; said:
Which is why most who have them starting them out in smaller tanks don't come out to tell. Sadly.
I know someone who had 6 in a rubbermaid tub..
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Which is why most who have them starting them out in smaller tanks don't come out to tell. Sadly.
I know someone who had 6 in a rubbermaid tub..
ray777;1122171; said:
Not really. Most at that small size in that small of a tank die. I keep mine the way I described and have raised dozens to full size (yes, FULL size). You tell me which way works. You say everything was fine - but yet the fish died. So apparently everything was NOT fine.
Of course most people aren't going to raise them like I suggested. Then again, those are the same people who shouldn't have them in the first place. If you can't provide for an animal it's entire life, you shouldn't have it. I don't think the general public should be allowed to have these fish - but we all know my feelings on them.
Zoodiver;1123600; said:
And you raise these at your personal home and have fish tanks or ponds this big???? You are right people should not have them. But as long as they are being offered people will buy them up and raise them til they die. My tank was fine except for his tankmates. I have realized that they are becoming agressive and couldn't watch them24/7 to realize they probly stressed him out. Or who knows he could of had something internal I just didnt see signs of. So yes it was MY FAULT it died. But to say a 90 gallon is to small for a 5inch fish for a couple months is insane!!
since they all come from fish farms most will be raised for food and killed..........not a nice choice
ray777;1123673; said:
Not really. The whole inch per gallon rule is a joke. These fish do best in larger scale tanks. It's a proven fact.
And no, I don't have anything even close to an arapaima tank at my house. My biggest right now is only a 90
Lol see you are saying all this cuz you work at a public place where they have large scale aquariums. I am not knocking you at all just saying that the fish would be ok for a while. Not only that but I know I couldn't house him for a while, I was just raising it for a friend and what he does with it is his decision. I still don't get how it wouldn't be ok in a 90g. So would a 210 be better.
Like I said, start at 300-500 gallons. Those 750 gallon pool free stadning pools from Aqautic Eco work great with just a small sand filter on them. With soft sides and no corners, they make the ideal grow out tank for the first 5-6 months.
I'm not saying go big because I do. This is just what it takes - flat out. Nobody has success with small animals in small tanks. I know several places that tried growing up small arapaima in small holding awaiting transfer into larger displays - and they died. Same water parameters, same substrate, same everything but in a larger tank at the same facility and the results were great.
My juives did best when there were both light and dark areas as well as both minimal and high flow areas. They would use all the conditions as they wanted. It was fun to watch.
I'm not saying go big because I do. This is just what it takes - flat out. Nobody has success with small animals in small tanks. I know several places that tried growing up small arapaima in small holding awaiting transfer into larger displays - and they died. Same water parameters, same substrate, same everything but in a larger tank at the same facility and the results were great.
My juives did best when there were both light and dark areas as well as both minimal and high flow areas. They would use all the conditions as they wanted. It was fun to watch.
How many people out there have grown them like zoodiver says? How many have grown them out in normal aquariums?? Zoodiver I give up. I just wont try them. Where is this place at that you work at would love to see it?
ray777;1124118; said:
i grew two out in a 400 gallon.........
after....i tried to raise two starting ( 6 inch) in a 60 gallon and killed them both.
I've grown out over 30.
I just put together the un-official second largest (by volume) in the world Amazon display. With over 60 species and pushing 1,000 animals right now (making it the largest by animals displayed).
Prior to that I ran the largest Amazon aquarium/zoo exhibit in the world with one of the largest collections of arapaima on display.
My current project is here:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51543
I just put together the un-official second largest (by volume) in the world Amazon display. With over 60 species and pushing 1,000 animals right now (making it the largest by animals displayed).
Prior to that I ran the largest Amazon aquarium/zoo exhibit in the world with one of the largest collections of arapaima on display.
My current project is here:
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51543
