Arapaima

[Miles]

I had one that was 5in. lived for a month then died. I had some buddies have the same thing happen. Tell me everything there is to keep one alive. As far as I know I had everything right.

<Zoodiver tries to help him out.>

A lil dramatic are we?? The set up was fine as far as water parmeters, lighting, decor, substrate and setup time.

This is why I was upset.

The joker with the largest freshwater display comment was just funny.

 

[ray777]

ray777, Obviously 90g isn't good enough for a 5" inch fish.. Blame it on your tankmates.. the other guy.. whatever. But if you are going to come and ask about 'water chemistry' and people tell you it's the tanksize, don't try to tell them they are wrong.. because, gee, your Pima died?

Obivisously you have no clue if it was the tank size. That is a bunch of bs to say a fish died cuz of that. In this case at least. I mentioned later in the threads if you watch them carefully, that I wasn't able to watch the tank 24/7 and noticed the african pike being aggresive toward other fish and even each other after he had died. SO MY FAULT!! I know for a fact that was the problem after I posted this up. I am sure I am not the only member to keep one in that small of a tank. In fact I am pretty sure some well known people on here have done it!! Sorry you are a mad biologist and know everything. Not to knock you Zoodiver!

 

[ray777]

Sorry Miles I have owned tons of exotic fish and killed my fair share of fish. I doubt you have never killed a fish or even the best of us on here. I was just asking basics about the pima. I quickly got an answer that I need a huge tank. I was not asking for its life time. So if you are to say that I killed a 5inch pima cuz I don't have a tank that is huge then yes I did say zoodiver was being dramatic.

 

[Miles]

Obivisously you have no clue if it was the tank size. That is a bunch of bs to say a fish died cuz of that. In this case at least. I mentioned later in the threads if you watch them carefully, that I wasn't able to watch the tank 24/7 and noticed the african pike being aggresive toward other fish and even each other after he had died. SO MY FAULT!! I know for a fact that was the problem after I posted this up. I am sure I am not the only member to keep one in that small of a tank. In fact I am pretty sure some well known people on here have done it!! Sorry you are a mad biologist and know everything. Not to knock you Zoodiver!

Next time you ask for second opinions, don't tell them their opinions are wrong.

 

[ray777]

Yeah ok Miles

 

[TLkmDN]

urrrr guys i think everybody is taking this wayyyyy too seriously.....i didnt mean to offend anyone. the joke was instigated towards zoodiver who obviously didnt find it that offensive considering he still answers my pm questions that i send him frequently. furthermore it is not a lie. my dad owns shares in the flooded aquaria in the KLCC convention center. so dont accuse people of being liars when you have no proof.

 

[cichlaguapote]

It is an issue. I was insinuating exactly this; If they can't accommodate for it when its 5", how will either of them accommodate for it at 2 feet, 7 feet, 10, feet, 14 feet?

It makes me so mad that people can even own fish like this.. and then when they kill it they try to place blame on others.. even after asking for help or opinions..

Any normal fish at 5" is fine in a 90g and even if you have a 30k gallon tank you wouldn't stick a 5" fish in it. So growout tank of some size has to come in somewhere. 30k is a bit much, again john doesn't even have that size and I would say his fish is comfortable right now.

You don't know if his friend has 30k tank or not and bringing up whether one has the right tank size for an adult fish when trying to find out why pima die easier at smaller sizes is a mute point and does nothing for the discussion.

How will he accomidate for it when it's larger? Maybe he has a empty pool and is in a tropical region? Maybe he has plans to eat it?(they are food fish after all) Honestly again it's a mute point. There are many people who keep fish that get very very large.. Some have plans for larger tanks.. Some have plans for bar-b-ques..

 

[cichlaguapote]

Next time you ask for second opinions, don't tell them their opinions are wrong.

Opinions can be wrong in a way..There can be more than one reason for deaths. You can state that you think one thing is a cause for alot of deaths but maybe there are others. And we don't know all about every fish. Without mentioning names fish stores like Shark Aquarium keep 30 of them in a 75g and many other people keep them in smaller tanks without issue. So is it something with when they get to a certain size they don't like smaller tanks? Maybe but if you just dismiss it and say "you didn't have a big enough tank anyways and it makes me mad anyone can buy them... grrr" then you're not really finding an answer or helping anyone gain knowledge.

 

[TLkmDN]

i agree with cichlagua. apparently the main cause of death for these small arapaimas are stress which then manifest into disease...NOT small tank issues. i dont believe that 2 months in a 90g for a 5 inch pima will result in death. that sounds a bit farfetched...

 

[ray777]

Opinions can be wrong in a way..There can be more than one reason for deaths. You can state that you think one thing is a cause for alot of deaths but maybe there are others. And we don't know all about every fish. Without mentioning names fish stores like Shark Aquarium keep 30 of them in a 75g and many other people keep them in smaller tanks without issue. So is it something with when they get to a certain size they don't like smaller tanks? Maybe but if you just dismiss it and say "you didn't have a big enough tank anyways and it makes me mad anyone can buy them... grrr" then you're not really finding an answer or helping anyone gain knowledge.

Thank you!!!! My point exactly. I agree with anyone that it is not fair for a fish to live its entire life in a small tank. Then again maybe we shouldn't be allowed to have them.