Are all fishkeepers CRIMINALS???

[scorp]

but if they were legal when exported...

they wouldn't be violating any laws. the laws in brazil or indonesia would restrict exports of future fish, not fish already exported, so no laws were violated, and the fish are legal

In that case, yes!

It's hard to prove, when and where the fish was caught. But I know that still some of the species which are restricted to be exported make their way to other countries and therefore buying for instance an L25 pleco at the moment from an importer is theoretically against federal law in the US (same here in Germany).

 

[scorp]

Are all fishkeepers CRIMINALS you asked???

But then quoted a law that applies to your country and not the other 194 countries and 30 odd territories in the world.

So I don't think that all fishkeepers are CRIMINALS.

All western countries have this law in one way or the other and I bet Japan as well, so there goes 80 odd percent of your fish importers worldwide...

 

[jcardona1]

Are all fishkeepers CRIMINALS you asked???

But then quoted a law that applies to your country and not the other 194 countries and 30 odd territories in the world.

So I don't think that all fishkeepers are CRIMINALS.

don't get too hung up on the title of my thread

 

[cichlid2006]

i remember reading something on a datnoids about them being illegal to export from one country but the river the datnoids live in crosses the border to another country where wild collection and exportation is legal. if i remember right thats how they keep getting wild datnoids.

yet again i cant remember where i read this. im going to start bookmarking these interesting things i promise.

 

[Bottomfeeder]

Yes, all fishkeepers are criminals... in fact, I personally shot Kennedy... AND Oswald.

 

[bob965]

The government would have to prove:

1. The wildlife was taken, possessed, transported, or sold in violation of a valid underlying law or regulation;
2. In the exercise of due care, the defendant should have known the wildlife was taken, possessed, transported, or sold in violation of some law or regulation; and
3. The defendant knowingly committed or attempted to commit an import, export, transport, sale, receipt, acquisition, or purchase.

Reference: http://www.animallaw.info/articles/arus16publlr27.htm

 

[ALLENIRIVERA]

Yes, all fishkeepers are criminals... in fact, I personally shot Kennedy... AND Oswald.

Did you really? I could have swore it was your bullet that missed and not mine, Lol.

In all seriousness, fishkeeping is looked down as criminal,but aren't jail cells basicly human aquariums? imported or exported.

 

[scriving]

ive met a lot of gangbangers that keep fish not to hijack the thread hah

 

[LD50]

I think this is more targeted at the whole black market animal trade, exotic endangerd species dealers. Not so much little Johnny who caught a snakehead in the local river and put it in his tank, or bob who bought what he thought were jardini fry that ended up being illigal asian aro's (how freakin awsome would that be?).

 

[kevincao]

well i'm still training in police academy, but in canada, toronto, we let these things be dealt with the customs, which is part of the police branch. to my knowledge, unless you can prove the person is illegally importing, WITH evidence, such as receipt, certificate, or if this person is making a living out of it, which is continuously importing and selling with eye witness. but if person is to own the fish, who is illegally bought, then he must prove who the seller is, if is from LFS then investigation will go to LFS, and LFS will tell the distributor, and that's how they find out. if owner have no knowledge the fish is illegal they will be warned or charge with money, depending on the police discretion. but that case is hardly ever happening.

that's based on the book, but in reality. we don't really care, only case that person has been charged is because animal cruelty towards pets (dogs and cats) and only to find out the person is illegally owning a pet such as (exotic fish, turtle, and etc,) which then will be charged few 100 - 1000.