Are all flowerhorn hybrid's?

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obviously I dont know anything about flowerhorn and after reading alot of post's and talking to poeple I've come to the conclusion that they are all hybrids but with what? and are there any standard breed's that people start with. For example I've seen quite a few Red Dragon Pearl and it seems it would be hard to keep that particular coloring with every tom,dick and harry mixing it with JD's GT's and Texas. Just seems like a big melding pot to me. Just curius.
 
Flowerhorns are indeed hybrids. We have a Flowerhorn forum here on MFK, but it is a bit slow. Many people will tell you different things on how Flowerhorns were made. The secret, obviously is buried deep in Asia. The breeders that know how to create Quality FH's will NEVER reveal their secret.

Theres a ton of FH types, but the 2 main types are Zhen Zhous(Trimac based) and Kamfas(Vieja based). FH's also are based on grades. A ZZ(Zhen zhou) that looks very similar to a trimac with no hump would be considered a low grade. Oh, If a Flowerhorn doesn't have a hump, its considered garbage. Flowerhorns are an art lol. It takes skill and a bit of luck to create a masterpiece.

I could keep going on and on.. but then it might appear as if I'm rambling lol. Feel free to ask more questions:D
 
obviously I dont know anything about flowerhorn and after reading alot of post's and talking to poeple I've come to the conclusion that they are all hybrids but with what? and are there any standard breed's that people start with. For example I've seen quite a few Red Dragon Pearl and it seems it would be hard to keep that particular coloring with every tom,dick and harry mixing it with JD's GT's and Texas. Just seems like a big melding pot to me. Just curius.

I joined the flowerhorn craze when it first got hot in the west coast in the early 2000's........I quickly learned they were easy to breed like any other cichlid........I jumped out as quick as it started and went back to more pure monsters to breed and sell and just to raise........Around 1999-2002, when the craze started, lots of people online would bash flowerhorn keepers......When most poeple thought fish hybrid, they would think a fish better to raise and sell and to eat...Having another ornamental hybrid might be a disaster to the cichlid community, leaving a bunch of cichlid strains in our local stores with gene pools way off the chart.............After knowing this, I stayed off, away from the flowerhorn scene and just whatched these monters from afar....When it comes to the "basic" bloodlines of the first flowerhorn, I know the first popular combos:

Trimac and Rose Queen
Trimac and JD
Trimac and Green Terror
Trimac and Midas

The basic color pattern of the "regular flowerhorn" is the solid olive green dark body, the red-pink belly, and the star pattern on the side->The Trimac...........Being 10-15 years after introduction, you now have super koks the size of almost grapefruits........And the colors, the colors seen on some of these fish are amazing, like saltwater fish........But still, the hybrid factor lingers, and the import trade of wild caught speciman rules.........

100 years from now, what would YOU want?????Facilities breeding the flowerhorn?????????OR---->the basic hobbyist breeding an endangered cichlid in his own room/garage...........
 
I joined the flowerhorn craze when it first got hot in the west coast in the early 2000's........I quickly learned they were easy to breed like any other cichlid........I jumped out as quick as it started and went back to more pure monsters to breed and sell and just to raise........Around 1999-2002, when the craze started, lots of people online would bash flowerhorn keepers......When most poeple thought fish hybrid, they would think a fish better to raise and sell and to eat...Having another ornamental hybrid might be a disaster to the cichlid community, leaving a bunch of cichlid strains in our local stores with gene pools way off the chart.............After knowing this, I stayed off, away from the flowerhorn scene and just whatched these monters from afar....When it comes to the "basic" bloodlines of the first flowerhorn, I know the first popular combos:

Trimac and Rose Queen
Trimac and JD Fale
Trimac and Green Terror False
Trimac and Midas

The basic color pattern of the "regular flowerhorn" is the solid olive green dark body, the red-pink belly, and the star pattern on the side->The Trimac...........Being 10-15 years after introduction, you now have super koks the size of almost grapefruits........And the colors, the colors seen on some of these fish are amazing, like saltwater fish........But still, the hybrid factor lingers, and the import trade of wild caught speciman rules.........

100 years from now, what would YOU want?????Facilities breeding the flowerhorn?????????OR---->the basic hobbyist breeding an endangered cichlid in his own room/garage...........

Lets not derail and turn this into a Purist VS Hybrid thread. We got enough of those already.
 
OP and Importracer mentiond crossing with GT to make flowerhorns, this is false and also impossible.
GT's cannot hybridize/crossbreed outside their genus. They in no way have a role in the creation in any breed/strain of flowerhorn.

But you are correct to assume they are all hybrids.
 
OP and Importracer mentiond crossing with GT to make flowerhorns, this is false and also impossible.
GT's cannot hybridize/crossbreed outside their genus. They in no way have a role in the creation in any breed/strain of flowerhorn.

But you are correct to assume they are all hybrids.

What about Red Terror?
 
not to derail the thread but if it wasn't for crossbreeding i would not have been born.

I loled. Be it you're Caucasian, Hispanic, Asian, African, we all share the same DNA. We are not separated into different species or genus's just because of our race lol.
 
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