Are Datnoids Color Blind?

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h20man

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I am not new to raising and caring for large predatory fish, but this is the first time that I have purchased Datnoids. My datnoids are between 1 and 2 inches, maybe 2 1/2 inches. When I purchased my Datnoids I also purchased about 10 small black molly fry for them to eat. that was about 3 weeks ago, and now the molly fry are about 1/4 to 1/2 the size of the datnoids and have not diminished in numbers.

So this brings up my question for the distinguished members of this forum. Are datnoids color blind? Do datnoids prefer to eat fish and food that have color verses those which are dark in color like the black molly's? Or, are datnoids selective in the kinds of live fish that they eat?

Any thoughts, insights, or experiences would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! :)
 
Although i've only ever owned 2 dats I don't think they prefer brightly coloured live food over not. How long have you had the dats in the tank for?
 
my dats are in a growout convict fry tank that i bred... as soon as i introduced 2 of the little dats in the tank. i look in 2 min after and the smaller dat had a big fry in its mouth... it took him 30 min to eat, and he was laying on his side... never since have i seen a dat eat a convict... but they can pick out a guppy in a matter of seconds...

By the way.. the baby Dat is fine...
 
what would make u assume they dont??

If fish dont, why would there be so many colors of lures out there for sale to go fishing with... some days silver doesnt work, somedays firetiger doesnt work. i fully believe fish see in color.. there may be some colorblind fish out there, but there are people colorblind too.. i'd say the normal fish would be able to see color...

Chartreuse, firetiger , and rainbow lures assure me they see COLORS!
 
AquataHolic420;749191; said:
what would make u assume they dont??

If fish dont, why would there be so many colors of lures out there for sale to go fishing with... some days silver doesnt work, somedays firetiger doesnt work. i fully believe fish see in color.. there may be some colorblind fish out there, but there are people colorblind too.. i'd say the normal fish would be able to see color...

Chartreuse, firetiger , and rainbow lures assure me they see COLORS!

:iagree:

I think this is a good point. If they were colorblind, all lures would be silver...
 
ammerman19;749275; said:
not necissarily. There are MANY shades to the greyscale.

what are u colorblind?? why u defending grey colors? u believe whatever you want...

Im positive fish see COLORSSSSSSSSSSSSS, or they wouldnt be able to tell the difference from yellow and chartruese, and i think they can.. go fishing.
 
Yes excellent point in regards to lures and colors. I to am an avid fisherman, keeping fish keeps the edge off from me getting grumpy from not fishing.

There are tucanares (Peacock Chiclids/ Peacock Bass) here in some of the lakes in Hawaii and talapia as well as convicts are very popular live baits to use to catch them. My experience is convicts seem to suggest that convicts seem to draw more strikes from largemouth bass than tucanares (Peacock Chiclids). I also recognize that regionally some species of fish seem to prefer different types of bait.

I also know that many predator fish are sensitive to sound and movement. In fact, movement often triggers the strike mechanism in the fish and a little added sound helps as well. Case in point, fishermen who catch largemouth bass, many bass fishermen added rattlers to their plastic worm or lure to create additional sound to catch bass.

Some of the more popular soft plastic grub baits used here in Hawaii for some saltwater predatory game fish are black or white and they work quite effectively here. I have found that the white lures seem to work well when the area has a lot of sand.

In regards to using live black mollys as feeder fish for datnoids, movement isn't a problem because the fish is alive. Thus color must play a role in this equation. Convict chiclids are black and grey, thus there is some contrast in their coloration and probably easier for the datnoid to see and eat. For some predators it is suggested that they see only in black and white, and others only can detect movement.

Well my tank with the datnoids is planted, thus I am assuming that the black mollys when they swim among the plants creates enough contrast that a predator can detect it. I am sure that an Oscar would gobble up the black mollies in a few seconds if given the opportunity. I also have the lights on in the tank for about 8 - 12 hours a day for the plants. I have also noticed that the datnoids seem to prefer dimly lit tanks. Thus hunting in low light conditions shouldn't be an issue and detecting blacks and grays shouldn't be much of an issue.

Thank you for your replies and I look forward to gaining additional insight from any and all experiences that you may have regarding this issue.

thus it brings me back to my original question, are datnoids color blind? And then some follow-up questions would be:

Do datnoids just see in black & white or can they see a good portion of the color spectrum?

Any insight that could be given would be awesome! Thanks!!!!! :) please keep the thoughts, ideas, and observations coming!
 
My understanding is that most fish see in color with the notable exception of those species that live in environments where the full spectrum of light is not available, e.g., deep water, or where little or no light is available, e.g., caves.
 
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