Are Koi Strong?

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yeah koi are pretty tough, and u'd be surpised but so are those lil goldfish u buy for 99 cents haha
 
Peter McFarlane;1445157; said:
Manny post a picture of the fish, try and get a shot of damage so we can look and see if it looks bad...

I've had koi try and jump out and hit themselves on the pond edge, they've always healed relatively well. Does it look like its had a knock? Or maybe something else? Describe it a bit or ideally get a pic.

Good luck with getting him well again.
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It seems like it had a small chunk biten off or scraped off. Its not on the tail but near the end right before the tail begins. So far the Koi is holding on while I treat the tank with Melafix, just in case some sort of an infection decides to come out. Im pretty much using the Melafix as a preventative.
 
even high ammonia and nitrite levels?


murky water doesn't mean bad water quality. just as clear water doesn't mean healthy water
 
BlokOne;1448115; said:
i beleive most goldfish and carp can live in the ****tiest of water conditions wich is why they are recomended as 'beginer' fish. i might be wrong.
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Goldfish and Carp are some of the most hardiest fish around, but no carp should be sold as a beginenr fish.

Ammonia burns the gills and every fish is effected by it. It should never exist in your tank once it has cycled. Nitrite on the other hand is passed through the gills and attacks the heamoglobin of the blood which restricts oxygen flow throughout the fish. The result is death. This too should never be present in your tank.
 
ccdoido38;1449143; said:
how come some of the "cycling fish" can handle the high ammounts during cycling?
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I think it is just a function of their natural tolerance to higher amounts of ammonium.

Selling goldfish (well, fancy ones anyways) as beginner fish has always bothered me. Placing a fish that can grow very large and produces a lot of waste in the tiniest volume of water... seems like when people thought about what to make the standard beginner fish, they weren't thinking it through all the way.

Surviving and flourishing are two different things. Koi or goldfish may hang in there in terrible conditions, but that really isn't proper fishkeeping... they will be stunted, susceptible to opportunistic infections, and it is cruel, so why make a hobby of it?

I keep goldfish, and don't let the nitrates get over 20 ppm; that is the absolute maximum.
 
"cycling fish" is just another way of say its a cheap, common fish that nobody gives a damn about, if i were to cycle a tank w/ say a pike cichlid or oscars everybody would be pissed at me but not if i used danios nobody would really care. there should be no such thing as a cycling fish, fishless cycling is the way to go.
 
yeah my Koi is getting worse now the injury in the tail got worse and its spreading red more on the tail. Also his scales are protruding so that doesn't sound to good. If he gets any worse he'll meet Mr. Largemouth Bass before his last breath.:naughty:
 
Danyal;1452267; said:
"cycling fish" is just another way of say its a cheap, common fish that nobody gives a damn about, if i were to cycle a tank w/ say a pike cichlid or oscars everybody would be pissed at me but not if i used danios nobody would really care. there should be no such thing as a cycling fish, fishless cycling is the way to go.
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yeah; golden arowana or white cloud..same thing!
that's what i don't like about some people here, it seems "racist" towards the fish
 
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