are our fish edible ?

[peter predtank]

On my water conditioner it says not to be used on fish raised for human consumption, and on most meds we use the same message appears. Most medication used on animals bred for human consumption is extensively tested and there for more expensive than the ones available for the pet trade. Meat, fish imported in to the UK have to pass the same welfare and quality standards as domestic livestock, I would imagine the USA is the same, asda/Walmart in the UK can tell you where each fish came from and what medication it has had, even what temperature it has been kept at while being transported.

i would think that the meds , chemicals and products we use would be more expensive then those used in commercial fish farming . if only for the reason that the pet trade stuff would be used in much smaller packages and such .
also , i would put forward that much of the stuff we use could be the same as used in aquaculture . aside from certain things that might be overtly toxic . it may well be other reasons for the labeling such as perhaps less stringent steps in production practicing protocols in the manufacturing of said chemicals and licencing .depending on the end use of product . an example would be , two places produce the same thing , one has been licensed to produce it for use in aquaculture food production because of safe producing practices , one produces it for a different sector say the pet trade . and so possibly doesnt have to adhere to certain practices during production that insure quality control although there essentially the same thing .

another example would be meds like Erythromycin or Tetracycline both meds can be used on humans as well as fish and the meds can even be purchased from the local fish store although if purschased from the fish store both will most defiantly say not for human consumption

 

[RD.]

By law many of the meds sold for use in aquariums, cannot be used in fish destined for human consumption. They are not allowed due to their potential toxicity to humans. Infants eat these foods too, so the safety margin is generally pretty large. It is for this same reason that every year hundreds/thousands of shipments of fish/shrimp etc are destroyed at the border by border control agencies. Pakistan, China, Thailand, etc-etc have all been caught shipping product that is considered no bueno in North America. Pretty sure most folks here wouldn't be so keen about that shrimp on the barbi, if they knew that it had been raised in a toxic soup of antibiotics etc, which is quite common in many of super intensive commercial farms located in 3rd world countries.

 

[pelleeklund]

McDonald's can trace their meat right back to the rats knuckles it came from. You guys are no fun, let the guy eat his fish in peace. Bear GryIis drinks his pee and everybody thinks he's awesome.

 

[Frank Castle]

When I was a kid, the smelt would run in Lake Michigan, and we'd get buckets full. Most smelt were no bigger than the size of giant danios, and after being fried, we ate the entire fish, bones, head and all.
It was also similar with 3" gouramis, and barbs in Viet Nam, most Americans would laugh calling the dish fish heads and rice, but a very important source of protein, and nothing was wasted.
Here in Panama, the local people will gladly clean and fillet a snapper, or mackerel for me for free if they can keep the head and bones.
They make a delicious soup out of what I might normally discard.
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You also have to be careful when you eat Field-dressed fish.....filleting removes the meat that may contain harmful toxins, like the darker belly and back meat, however I can't see it being an issue on small fish, especially the size of a Smelt. I am guilty of cooking the fish in a frying pan in it's own liquids, which is a no-no; PAFBC recommends after removing fatty areas and all skin, broiling or baking it on a rack to allow excess liquid to drip off and vacate the fish because it also may be the cooked-down remains of toxins. Most concentrations of Mercury, PCBs, etc are in these problem areas, so be careful when eating field dressed fish and remember it builds up in your system over years and years, so I might be ok now, but in another 15-20 years, it could just hit me one day and make me very ill. I love fish.....LOVE it, but we have to take more precautions these days prior to consumption.

Same way with big catfish. It's like slaughtering a pig.

How? LOL How is cleaning a big catfish ANYTHING like slaughtering a PIG??? WTH!!

I guess some other food for thought, living in Asia, its quite common to hear people say Farmed Fish doesnt taste as good as wild caught fish, regardless if its fresh or saltwater fish...

So i wonder if chemicals / foods / exercise has something to do with that...

Farmed fish from anywhere don't taste as good as their wild-caught counterparts.....I have not had a chance to defrost and take the pictures yet, but I am going to make a thread showing the farmed, stocked Trout we catch here with white meat all the way through it, and then compare it to a wild Brown trout I caught from a deep-water Lake that had been living there for several years which has dark dark Pink and deep Red colored flesh which tastes amazing by comparison to the stockies which are fed mainly pellets, liver, and baby mealworms (yuk)

On my water conditioner it says not to be used on fish raised for human consumption, and on most meds we use the same message appears. Most medication used on animals bred for human consumption is extensively tested and there for more expensive than the ones available for the pet trade. Meat, fish imported in to the UK have to pass the same welfare and quality standards as domestic livestock, I would imagine the USA is the same, asda/Walmart in the UK can tell you where each fish came from and what medication it has had, even what temperature it has been kept at while being transported.

Just to add, when you consider many of these fish medication read in big bold letters on the back "WARNING THIS PRODUCT CONTAINS CHEMICALS KNOWN IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO CAUSE CANCER" you'd think it would be a good enough deterrent for people not to eat them, but I guess people don't believe in stuff like that. Evolution is a myth even though it's pretty much been proven and Dinosaurs were really a government conspiracy to undermine religion also LMAO

Gotta love naivety

 

[PYRU]

How? LOL How is cleaning a big catfish ANYTHING like slaughtering a PIG [/QUOTE]

Metaphor. Cleaning a 20lb+ catfish is messy. III read between the lines

 

[RD.]

http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_33.html

http://foodsafety.news21.com/2011/imports/seafood/

 

[duanes]

Here in Panama the importation of Swai (Pangasius catfish) as a food product has been outlawed due to the squalid conditions they are farmed in, in Asia(?). And where to keep them alive in such conditions, the apparent need for over use of medication.

 

[peter predtank]

thanks for the links RD. , looks like to really feel safe about it , as said a time or two , you would have to raise them right from the start without any chemicals or drugs .
but then , like i said being raised in recirculating water might not be very nice either . like when you catch a bass in the height of summer in a swampier type area sometimes it just taste fishier not in a good way lol

 

[rodger]

A few years ago a guy on here did a step by step photo show of making a sandwich out of a pacu. He claimed it was quite tasty.

 

[Bottomfeeder]

McDonald's can trace their meat right back to the rats knuckles it came from. You guys are no fun, let the guy eat his fish in peace. Bear GryIis drinks his pee and everybody thinks he's awesome.

I certainly do not think Bear Grylls is awesome. I grew up watching Les Stroud... his knowledge, toughness, will, and most of all, his respect for nature were unmatched. Bear Grylls has none of those things... he's dumber than the dirt beneath his four hundred dollar hiking boots, he stays in hotels and goes out with a safety crew and sandwiches (I bet he cuts the crust off, too), and he kills everything he sees strictly for shock value. He's pretty weak.