Are Perenties and Lace Monitors illegal in NYS?

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Candiru
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New York State currently has the following species of monitor listed as a "wild animal" and are thus illegal for private ownership:

Blackthroat/Whitethroat/Rock.
Water Monitor
Nile Monitor
Crocodile Monitor
Komodo Dragon.

as far as I can tell the intention of the law was to keep "big monitors" out of people's hands, I guess anything exceeding the size of an Argus monitor.

I couldn't help but notice that NYS failed to mention the Perentie and Lace monitor, both of which grow to an excess of 6ft long (I believe the Perentie is larger than the Nile Monitor, and a lot more athletic/dangerous).

So, the way the law is currently written, does it state that ONLY the listed species of Monitor are illegal? or are all large monitors illegal with the above just being "examples"?

In other words, if I were somehow miraculously able to LEGALLY [as far as Australia, CITES, and the USA governments are concerned] obtain a Perentie in New York State, would the state government itself have a serious issue with it? Or, because it was conveniently left out of the bill, would it be their own fault?

Thanks for your time!

P.S. here's a copy of the law:
http://www.bornfreeusa.org/b4a2_exotic_a…

(5) All reptiles that are venomous by nature, pursuant to department regulation, and the following species and families: Burmese Python (Python m. bivittatus), Reticulated Python (Python reticulatus), African Rock Python (Python sabae), Green Anaconda (Eunectes maurinus), Yellow Anaconda (Eunectes notaeus), Australian Amethystine Python (Morelia amethistina kinhorni), Indian Python (Python molurus), Asiatic (water) Monitor (V. salvator), Nile Monitor (V. nilocitus), White Throat Monitor (V. albigularus), Black Throat Monitor (V. albigularus ionides) and Crocodile Monitor (V. salvadori) and any hybrid thereof,


EDIT: It seems as though the Komodo Dragon is not listed either.

I am fully aware and openly acknowledge that I am no where near capable of caring for any monitor lizard that grows to 6 feet or over. My yearling Tegu is plenty enough reptile for me for now :)
Curiosity has the best of me right now though.
 
Well Komodos are highly endangered so I bet there some other law preventing that. But by the looks of it you could keep the other two if you managed to get your hands on one. If it's not written there's nothing they can fight you keeping them with unless they changed the law.
 
I'm guessing you would have either of these two cases. They may be examples, so your perentie may be confiscated if you were caught with one. The second one would be you'd still get it confiscated anyway, and probably returned later as a case of mistaken identity. Probably.
 
If you find a perentie I will personally go to your house and fight anyone to the death that tries to take it away :D
 
Thanks for the help guys.
I have absolutely no expectations for actually finding one of these available [although, the way the laws in Australia are currently written, could a captive breeder of Perenties export them provided the CITES paperwork was done?].
I just couldn't help but notice that NYS apparently... missed something.
 
Interesting that they have the komodo dragon on the list.I bet if one ever were to turn up it would outprice some used cars.
 
Australia are very strict on import and export, whether the species is listed CITES or not. Unless you are an educational or zoological society, importing and exporting any reptiles is prohibited down under.


Blue Crab of PAIN!!!! said:
Thanks for the help guys.
I have absolutely no expectations for actually finding one of these available [although, the way the laws in Australia are currently written, could a captive breeder of Perenties export them provided the CITES paperwork was done?].
I just couldn't help but notice that NYS apparently... missed something.
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Australia is very strict. I know some aquarists at the Florida Aquarium who work with sygnathids and have been dealing with the Aussie govt for nearly a year to import some leafy sea dragons. However, the way the law is written--it appears as though you could in fact own one. I'll hedge a bet the reason they did not specify those species (or oras) is the "impossible to get" factor.
 
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