Even for something the same size as a motoro or hystrix? Do they get bigger than 12" in diameter?
Are there any stingray species that are legal in California?
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Even for something the same size as a motoro or hystrix? Do they get bigger than 12" in diameter?
I believe the giant ray from Thailand is or was recently legal here. don't take my word for it though and a 180 wouldn't even house a fetus... except for the weather, calibanitfornia sucks
As a private owner, a state agency will never grant you a permit. And yes, if you have a permit, they check often and without warning.
There are many amazing looking marine rays that you can keep in your 180 for less than the cost of keeping FW rays. I'd look into that instead.
There are many amazing looking marine rays that you can keep in your 180 for less than the cost of keeping FW rays. I'd look into that instead.
zoodiver, do you know if the giant thai rays are legal in cali? a couple years ago, there was a vendor selling and shipping them to cali, if I recall correctly
I believe the whiptail stingrays are legal. They are seldom imported
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Hystrix get too around 14, and motoros are some of the largest, they get too 24 too 30".
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I don't like to disagree with you zoodiver but, a private owner can obtain a permit (depending on state regs.) for restricted or banned species if you can prove it's for research or educational purposes.. It's a lot of hoops to jump through but, it can be done.Also you could become an importer then you are allowed to bring in state regulated species..
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Thanks for the info everyone! Can't image switching over to saltwater just for rays though. Didn't know Motoros got so big either - so thanks for keeping me from making that mistake. Looks like as long as I'm in California I'll just have to keep dealing with our silly bans on animals.
It's true. However, and this is a biggie, the educational purposes clause must be satisfied by proving your research with a prospectus of the specific research you're launching, along with probable outcomes and the reasons the restricted species are to be used for that research. And, the research must be sponsored by a legitamate institution related to the research being proposed. The research project requires a timeline and the permit holder of the restricted species must show proof of proper disposal at the end of the project. Finally, if approval is granted, the facilities will be inspected before the permit is issued. The permits are not cheap and the cost of the initial and regular inspections are the responsibility of the permit holder.
As stated, you can become an importer. When filing for your business licenses, tax license, and importers license (none of which is free), the licenses must be related to the products (this case; rays) to be imported. There are specific requirements for the facilities to be used for housing the business when dealing with live animal imports. A business prospectus that shows profit goals must be maintained and show proposed profit margins by quarterly basis. Tax records must be maintained. And, starting capital requirements must be met.
