Are there new world cyprinids?

[MatteoTheEnder22]

So as the title states are their any species of native new world cyprinids if so what are the species can they be found in the hobby?

 

[Leo1234]

I know rainbow shiners and red shiners are sometimes found in the trade and they are native to North America. occasionally some of the other shiners are sold too

 

[MatteoTheEnder22]

I know rainbow shiners and red shiners are sometimes found in the trade and they are native to North America. occasionally some of the other shiners are sold too

Oh I didn’t know shiners are cyprinids. Question do you know about any monsters species?

 

[Milingu]

Oh I didn’t know shiners are cyprinids. Question do you know about any monsters species?

Shiners are not Cyprinids anymore. They were in the Subfamily Leuciscinae (=true minnows) of the Family of Cyprinidae (=Cyprinids). But in 2016 the Leuciscinae were raised to the status of family and thereby don't belong to the Cyprinidae anmore.

Stout, C.C., Tan, M., Lemmon, A.R., Moriarty Lemmon, E. & Armbruster, J.W. (2016): Resolving Cypriniformes relationships using an anchored enrichment approach. BMC Evolutionary Biology, November 2016.

For all remaining Cyprinidae see:
Yang et al 2015: Phylogeny and Polyploidy: Resolving the Classification of Cyprinine Fishes (Teleostei: Cypriniformes)



To answer OPs Question: There are no new world cyprinidae/cyprinids anymore.

 

[MatteoTheEnder22]

Shiners are not Cyprinids anymore. They were in the Subfamily Leuciscinae (=true minnows) of the Family of Cyprinidae (=Cyprinids). But in 2016 the Leuciscinae were raised to the status of family and thereby don't belong to the Cyprinidae anmore.

Stout, C.C., Tan, M., Lemmon, A.R., Moriarty Lemmon, E. & Armbruster, J.W. (2016): Resolving Cypriniformes relationships using an anchored enrichment approach. BMC Evolutionary Biology, November 2016.

For all remaining Cyprinidae see:
Yang et al 2015: Phylogeny and Polyploidy: Resolving the Classification of Cyprinine Fishes (Teleostei: Cypriniformes)



To answer OPs Question: There are no new world cyprinidae/cyprinids anymore.

Oh are their any fish similar too cyprinids that are native too the new world?

 

[Milingu]

Yes, there are many in the family Leuciscinae (=true minnows).
To be precise the subfamilies Leuciscinae, Phoxininae (not all), Plagopterinae and Pogonichthyinae.

Most of them are listet in this wikipedia article - only the family and subfamily are not up to date.
For more information I suggest reading the papers. I can also recommend the german version of that article. Its up to date and gives more details about the origin of the subfamilies.

 

[MatteoTheEnder22]

Yes, there are many in the family Leuciscinae (=true minnows).
To be precise the subfamilies Leuciscinae, Phoxininae (not all), Plagopterinae and Pogonichthyinae.

Most of them are listet in this wikipedia article - only the family and subfamily are not up to date.
For more information I suggest reading the papers. I can also recommend the german version of that article. Its up to date and gives more details about the origin of the subfamilies.

Thank you for the links only problem I don’t speak german I guess I’ll use google translate and I have a question do you know whats the biggest species in that family?

 

[Milingu]

Sorry, I don't know which one is the biggest exactly. But I know that colorado pikeminnows - Ptychocheilus lucius can be pretty large.

 

[MatteoTheEnder22]

Sorry, I don't know which one is the biggest exactly. But I know that colorado pikeminnows - Ptychocheilus lucius can be pretty large.

Okay thank you thats exactly what I’m looking for a true monster!!!