Are you doing it right? GRENADE :-))
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It was a nice read, but there are a few things I disagree with. I think its a bad idea to lower the temp to 76 F/24 celcius. Its simply too cold. And as you said yourself, many of the rivers where you find rays are small tributes. The water runs slower and the temp will stay around 79 F+.
Also, I dont see why you think batman rays are a result of high temperatures. Batman rays are also find in the wild.
I am farly sure it is a genetic defect. Again, they are found in the wild too.
Also, I dont understand why you are telling people to turn down their heat in combination with a salt sure. Its true that the bacteria will have an easier time, but so will the rays immunsystem. That goes for all tropical fish.
Also, I dont see why you think batman rays are a result of high temperatures. Batman rays are also find in the wild.
I am farly sure it is a genetic defect. Again, they are found in the wild too.
Also, I dont understand why you are telling people to turn down their heat in combination with a salt sure. Its true that the bacteria will have an easier time, but so will the rays immunsystem. That goes for all tropical fish.
Definetly sticky worthy.
I wish someone would have told me that BESIDES having a large enough tank, I'd also need many other things necassary to keep rays. Maybe we should start a checklist so new raykeepers have an idea what they are getting into. I know I sure as hell had no idea......
A microscope.
A means of identifying living organisms in stingray poop. (books or internet)
A RO system.
Lights capable of replicating the sun's rays.
Medications on hand cause chances are you will have no time to track them down by the time you figure out you need them.
A decent camera to show others what you see when trying to identify wounds, sickness, or other unknown things.
A large enough mixxing vat to age water equivelant to half your system's volume.
Extra tanks for QT/hospital tanks.
A means to watch/ monitor your tanks or pond in case you might actually want to leave town for more then a day.
Knowing all this stuff I can honestly say I may have held off getting rays for a while. Problem is it seemed much easier when I got my first one. What a learning experience......
I wish someone would have told me that BESIDES having a large enough tank, I'd also need many other things necassary to keep rays. Maybe we should start a checklist so new raykeepers have an idea what they are getting into. I know I sure as hell had no idea......
A microscope.
A means of identifying living organisms in stingray poop. (books or internet)
A RO system.
Lights capable of replicating the sun's rays.
Medications on hand cause chances are you will have no time to track them down by the time you figure out you need them.
A decent camera to show others what you see when trying to identify wounds, sickness, or other unknown things.
A large enough mixxing vat to age water equivelant to half your system's volume.
Extra tanks for QT/hospital tanks.
A means to watch/ monitor your tanks or pond in case you might actually want to leave town for more then a day.
Knowing all this stuff I can honestly say I may have held off getting rays for a while. Problem is it seemed much easier when I got my first one. What a learning experience......
Thank you for sharing this information, and thanks for bumping it!
MFK have been my bible for some weeks now, and i have never before learned so much in such a short period of time.
But i must say- it was this post who really opened my eyes. Also it introduced me to the "KISS" tread, and these two sources of information together have done a big difference!
It have been hard for me to deal with all the different information i have found so far. This tread have cleared things up nicely, and have gived me many good tools to work on with.. -in lack of other words.. ... rather basically in lack of any good language skills...
MFK have been my bible for some weeks now, and i have never before learned so much in such a short period of time.
But i must say- it was this post who really opened my eyes. Also it introduced me to the "KISS" tread, and these two sources of information together have done a big difference!
It have been hard for me to deal with all the different information i have found so far. This tread have cleared things up nicely, and have gived me many good tools to work on with.. -in lack of other words.. ... rather basically in lack of any good language skills...
Gr8KarmaSF;3557369; said:
I'm saying that knowing what I know now I would have gotten all these things prior to getting into rays.
Some may not need to alter water parameters. Depends where you live. I have 8.5 out of the tap. I'd rather have something closer to their natural enviroment.
I don't really have the experience to recommend what a ray keeper should or shouldn't have. All I can do is speak from hindsight. Like I said, if I had it to do all over again I would have done a lot of things differently as I have killed almost $2K worth of rays now not even counting any pups. With that list I think I could have easily prevented most of my losses.
I have been toying with the idea of keeping rays for quite some time. And for all the articles i have read on all the ways to prevent sudden ray death i have read just as many cases where sudden death has occured and the keeper still does not no why. My problem is if i buy a ray and it dies its a $1k lesson i cannot afford to learn (Australian Ray prices).
