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Sarcosuchus

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The Giant Snakehead

Ok guys I have a confession to make. I am the member who once was here as Taker. The member who posted the All About The Giant Snakehead thread. I left when there were some rude members here at the time.

Anyway that is old story, instead of using the same username I registered again as Sarcosuchus. The Snakehead hobby and study is way pass me now but I do dream of having the money to set up giant aquariums in my dream home with a pair of Giant Snakeheads.

Now to the reason of this thread: There is a typical attitude among humans I see that when they have it close to them, it seems that they can't appreciate it. Especially if it is an animal, especially it is an animal that is categorized as food. The Giant Snakehead being common in its native countries like Malaysia for example makes the native people become aware of its aggressiveness as well as its legends while some ego maniacs with very primitive minds hunt them in the name of sport and leave them to die as their trophies. While others see them as common trash fish and food. ( not everyone in its native countries eat the fish though )

It is impossible to see a full grown Giant Snakehead in the wild due to excessive fishing other than the 'Monster Quest' type legends and rumors about them. And since they are common in the local market, they too become common in the pet trade. Very cute babies in red and dark brown marked with two black horizontal stripes at both sides..hmm I know, I can't forget the ones I had... the curiosity that they have, their bravery, full of vigor and speed... already a superb killer not to mention when they grow.. Pity these babies also sold as feeder fish in some native countries like Singapore. Heading to the matter.. the Giant Snakehead is not the fish one should have just because it is common in one's country and just because you have some tank capable to sustain a baby and a juvenile for a certain period of time.

And still it is not all about size, then comes the handling.. I mean when you need to do waterchanging etc. Stories from its native countries vary from breaking tank glasses ( which isn't a myth ), seriously wounding its owners for having sticked his fingers or hand in the tank. And the adults have very sharp gills as shields and they do cause a bloody cut. I do not have to lecture about the responsibility of adopting a Giant Snakehead.. the reason I mentioned this is because I see some with small tanks and they just buy one and they think it's so cute and buy another and another and another... and some are even girls.. not to say girls don't make good fish keepers but can you show me a video or a picture of an amateur fish keeper handling an adult Giant Snakehead that has jumped out of its tank? Seriously..

I know, I know.. some may say ,"oh I know what I'm doing," well good if you know but I refer to those who actually have no idea what they are doing. You may think you know also but you are actually dreaming. I have been here for years and how many of you who had posted baby Giant Snakeheads and Juveniles actually have them as full growns now? How many of you have full grown Giant Snakeheads to prove you aren't just acting out of your craving for a Giant Snakehead?

A person says ,"hey dude yea I know them, I have kept some, they are ok..." And this person speaks of having kept a baby or a juvenile before whatever happened to the fish and they act as if they truly have had the experience and knowledge of having adopted and capable of caring for one until adulthood and for life! What arrogance and you have these guys to say that these fish are overrated. I'm sorry if you do not like this post but these living creatures are no shopping products like hey look it's a nicer shoe here... oh better colours.. wow badass looking boots.. no guys, no.

Let me just say to those who are serious, do your best and please be responsible. And some may smile saying ,"oh these predatory fish can't survive in UK's climate...," well that sounds good for you but NOT AT ALL for the poor fish. You can't handle it in your tank and you can't even release it unlike in its native countries. Perhaps someone will adopt huh? Yeah, jump from here and there and died many have before. Act wisely... this is not to say not to adopt one at all, you know what I am trying to say here. All the best and thank you for your time.:D

For more pics check the All About The Giant Snakehead thread.

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yes.... snakeheads are capable of such destruction.... their kinda like sharks..
 
I love how hardcore and dangerous people on this site like making their fish seem. Seriously, it's a big mean fish, but it's still a fish. You know what else can do that sort of damage to your hand? A cat ;) A toy poodle has bigger teeth than an adult Channa (I'm not joking) lol.

I find the efficiency and environmental adaption of the animal much more interesting then how badass it is...

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SimonL;3491064; said:
I love how hardcore and dangerous people on this site like making their fish seem. Seriously, it's a big mean fish, but it's still a fish. You know what else can do that sort of damage to your hand? A cat ;) A toy poodle has bigger teeth than an adult Channa (I'm not joking) lol.

I find the efficiency and environmental adaption of the animal much more interesting then how badass it is...


Throw that poodle or cat in a water with a Giant Snakehead lurking and you will know what I'm talking about. That it isn't all about the teeth talk here, it is about its temperament, its aggressiveness. You say ,"it's still a fish..," well so is a shark. What is your point? Isn't this fish keeping subject here? Is your cat or dog ready to strike you? I dare you to stick your hand in an adult Giant Snakehead tank and then you tell me what is the difference between this fish and this cat and poodle talk you are making as your intelligent argument here.

And this thread has nothing to do with making 'my' fish looking hardcore and dangerous. Nice try dude. "I find the efficiency and environmental adaption of the animal much more interesting then how badass it is..." Irrelevant, I am talking about the responsiblity of adopting a Giant Snakehead.
 
Nice logic lol, if we reversed that scenario and threw the snakehead on land with an average housecat or small dog, win goes to the mammal.

My point is you make it seem like a big deal...there is far more responsibility in owning an average dog. The responsibility in owning a large predatory fish comes from housing it in an appropriate tank and keeping it healthy, not from the danger of maintainence.

As someone who has worked with many different types of animals and personally moved large dangerous fish including 4' sharks, 4' electric eels, big stingrays, 3' lungfish and 4' moray eels, I can tell you handling an aggravated cat is far more difficult.

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SimonL;3491145; said:
Nice logic lol, if we reversed that scenario and threw the snakehead on land with an average housecat or small dog, win goes to the mammal.

My point is you make it seem like a big deal...there is far more responsibility in owning an average dog. The responsibility in owning a large predatory fish comes from housing it in an appropriate tank and keeping it healthy, not from the danger of maintainence.

As someone who has worked with many different types of animals and personally moved large dangerous fish including 4' sharks, 4' electric eels, big stingrays, 3' lungfish and 4' moray eels, I can tell you handling an aggravated cat is far more difficult.

"if we reversed that scenario and threw the snakehead on land with an average housecat or small dog, win goes to the mammal. " Lol I knew you would come up with that 'smart' reverse. Like I said this is fish keeping. Look at what I meant and understand, communication is about understanding not argument over words.

And to the rest that you say, so you are one of those 'experienced' ones.. well did I say you are incapable? Did I say it is impossible to keep a Giant Snakehead? No!

And to the rest that you said as you persistently talk about mammals in fish keeping subjects. Let me just say I will wait for the day when I see a member here showing a full grown adult Giant Snakehead and to that member I will say ,"bravo," and to the rest I will say ,"well, told ya." This thread was meant to deliver a message. Assume whatever you want and judge it however you will. I did what I wanted to do and that is all that matters.
 
There are many legends surrounding this awesome freshwater predator equivalent of a Great White Shark. There are many stories of them killing swimmers, fishermen witnessing Giant Snakehead the size of a fisherman's boat etc. The usual rare size that is talked about is 5 feet in length, even I was told about this. And it is said that such specimen is caught by using rope tied to a tree and of course a hook with chicken mostly being the bait

I have kept Giant Snakeheads years ago which I had to release in the wild ( native country ) when family could not handle their fast growth and aggressive behaviour. Just never had anything like them. Anyway, with accessive fishing and constructions today it is very saddening to say that I do not hear such stories anymore.

From your previous post. Many stories of them killing swimmers? Being the size of a boat? Equivalant to a Great White??? Sorry, they are equivalant to a muskie, Hydrolycus, Goliath tigerfish or other big toothy freshwater fish. They are nowhere near a Great White. In their environment they are an apex predator yes, but so is a big catfish or similar...

My issue with this is you lecturing people about owning an animal you yourself admit you had to release...It'd be like me starting a thread "delivering a message" about owning Arapaima when I've never kept them.

Don't get me wrong, I like snakeheads, even if we can't sell em here anymore (stupid Ontario). But making them seem like these unstoppable death machines just feeds the anti-snakehead paranoia. It's just a big fish.
 
SimonL;3491217; said:
From your previous post. Many stories of them killing swimmers? Being the size of a boat? Equivalant to a Great White??? Sorry, they are equivalant to a muskie, Hydrolycus, Goliath tigerfish or other big toothy freshwater fish. They are nowhere near a Great White. In their environment they are an apex predator yes, but so is a big catfish or similar...

My issue with this is you lecturing people about owning an animal you yourself admit you had to release...It'd be like me starting a thread "delivering a message" about owning Arapaima when I've never kept them.

Don't get me wrong, I like snakeheads, even if we can't sell em here anymore (stupid Ontario). But making them seem like these unstoppable death machines just feeds the anti-snakehead paranoia. It's just a big fish.

Egomania has to feed his ego, yeah I see you Simon. The post about Giant Snakehead being as big as boats are all stories of local legends, it was a thread about Giant Snakehead and I added these legends for that sake. And yes there are reports of swimmers being killed. And speaking of a Giant Snakehead being equivalant to a Great White Shark? Lmao I never said that but I like how you twist the words to put words in my mouth. I referred to it as a freshwater Great White Shark in its native countries. And I am not the first to say this, people say it for its torpedo shaped profile as well as for having a dark top and a white belly, not to mention its temperament and appetite. A Freshwater Great White Shark BUT NOT a fish Equivalent to a Great White, READ WELL DUDE! Continue to defend yourself just so you could feed your ego.

And I live in one of its native countries, I grew up around these fish so I know what I am talking about. So your idea of me speaking of a fish I never owned is again another BS of yours. And the reason I had to release mine were because I was 9 years old hahaha and it was my parents' decision, it wouldn't have been so if it was today. I released in its habitat, so zip it dude. Your foolishness is arguing over my words rather than understanding the meaning. Whatever dude.. carry on with your BS. I ain't overrating anything, only in your mind as you wish to view my words. My post was simply to touch upon the responsibility of owning this predatory fish as I see girls and kids buying a bunch of them having no clue what they are doing. Clearly they aren't serious about it and I suspect if they did any serious reading about it.
 
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