Arion Ater or Arion Rufus, the "European" Slug selective breeding.

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What a amazing project, dude where are you? I would love to know where I would be able to get so interesting slugs. Actually Im doing a very similar project with several lineges of wood lice (info to follow in a few weeks:naughty:). You have very good chances of sucsseding in your project and DONT kill anything of what your doing Im SHURE there is both interest and a market for your product, and yes there is a growing number of people that keep pet slugs, they would drool at your owesame ones. Here is the site: www.bugnation.uk. You could make some pennies selling your slugs;) Now my sugestions. 2 slugs are a start but you defenetly need a larger gene pool, try to put together at least like 6 of the coolest ones you can find. If you cant find especimens of so intense coloration still use them and then sellect the best looking offspring at each breeding. Now dont forget it may take some time for baby slugs to develop their full color. Its the photo the setup you have for them? Because its inadequate, you need a ruber container with very small numerous holes on the top, moist dead leaf litler, a chunk of cork and a moist substrate several inches tick (moist peat and sand) for the slugs to burrow and lay their eggs. Ad some wood lice to keep molts and waste in control. Feed them with washed fruit and vegetable left overs and mushrooms. I recomend dont removing the eggs.
Ho knows maybe in your selective breeding work you are able to unlock some very cool genes:D
Thanks for the reply!

I live in Western WA, USA. But, ironically, these slugs are an invasive species from Europe. They are arion rufus or arion ater, discernible only upon dissection, I've read.

I just took on wood lice, too! I had to poke around a bit because the species that don't pill up tick me off. I found a good stash of mature a. vulgaris. They are big, gray like a robot and roll up into a perfect fish-food sized ball. and am pretty happy so far. It's too soon to expect any offspring (less than a week, I've had them so far).

Thanks for the link.

I am actively seeking more reds and will add to my pool as I can. I'm only accepting the red-with-white-base type. There are tons around that are the right shade of red, but on the black meat it looks duller. Hey, Can they look white as babies and color up later? I keep finding white babies and have no clue whether or not to bother.


That was not their home. Just a collection container. They are now in a shoebox-sized plactic box with a leaf of collard green, a piece of banana, some maple leaves, a wet scrubbie and a dish of soil. I read through an experiment where the researchers were able to force the slugs to lay in a controlled location by only providing soil in that spot. The slugs find the soil to lay the eggs.
So I've got: moisture, shelter food. Other than keeping it somewhat - but not too - clean (they reconsume their feces as part of the digestion process and may die or stop reproducing without access to...that), am I missing anything? I read about cuttlebones and calcium supplements, but green veggies are loaded with calcium so I don't see any deficiency to be compensating for.

Okay, I will leave the eggs in the dish. :)

Are you sure I should add the wood lice?
 
So I think I'll raise the first batch in one container away from the parents. Once they are old enough, I'll cross the reddest one back to the redder parent and that will be the start of my colony. It is my understanding that animals like slugs are already amazingly inbred and doing fine from self-fertilization. So I would rather use this to my advantage for the first crossing, then cross those inbred reds with other reds I have found in the mean time, or the second batch of non-inbred offspring which ought to be mature by then. I think, aside from getting them to reproduce, the tricky part will be removing unwanted eggs laid by the offspring at random as they grow up together. I certainly don't want any sibling crosses, as that is just too much inbreeding for health.
So I'll need at the minimum:
The container for the two original parents (if they continue to thrive after breeding)
A container for the first batch, F1
A container for the F1 to parent (F0) offspring (F2)
--How many batches of F2's do I keep?! I need some advice on this!
A container/s for subsequent batches of F1's, from which I will eliminate brown throwbacks? Suddenly this seems like a lot of frickin' slugs. AWESOME.
 
very cool, the place I work at has a bunch of partula snails that are being breed to be released. I don't know anything about how slugs breed but i think it is sort of interesting. is this the only pair you have or do you have more? any sea slugs?
 
Hey! I just found this link through Google, and it sounds so interesting! I've got a small colony of woodlice which I was thinking of selectively breeding, but I haven't a clue what characteristics to breed into them! What were you planning on doing with them? It'd be cool to try make them really big, or a bright colour.

Anyway, I'll bookmark this post! Hopefully we'll start seeing some weird breeds coming along!
 
snakeguy101;4087192; said:
very cool, the place I work at has a bunch of partula snails that are being breed to be released. I don't know anything about how slugs breed but i think it is sort of interesting. is this the only pair you have or do you have more? any sea slugs?
Partula snails are very cool, actualy I find amazing no one has ever though of introducing them into the private sector, they are so endangered in the wild and their dietary needs are so especific (and so very unlikely to become invasive). If they were bred as pets they would hardly become extinct, rater they would trive and make interesting educational pets.
 
Guffmeister;4087310; said:
Hey! I just found this link through Google, and it sounds so interesting! I've got a small colony of woodlice which I was thinking of selectively breeding, but I haven't a clue what characteristics to breed into them! What were you planning on doing with them? It'd be cool to try make them really big, or a bright colour.

Anyway, I'll bookmark this post! Hopefully we'll start seeing some weird breeds coming along!
First you need to find some with a caracteristic like coloration that you like.:)
 
Which kind of partula snail are we talking about? The internet is pretty ambiguous about them.

I can't even think of any significant mutation or characteristic in woodlice that would be selectable. Given individuals of each species tend to look so similar. I suppose you could intensify the color or pick out shapes on the shell to fix.
 
knifegill;4088537; said:
Which kind of partula snail are we talking about? The internet is pretty ambiguous about them.

I can't even think of any significant mutation or characteristic in woodlice that would be selectable. Given individuals of each species tend to look so similar. I suppose you could intensify the color or pick out shapes on the shell to fix.
Wood lice have color mutations and morphs, I know because I have some of thouse:naughty:
 
Wood lice have color mutations and morphs, I know because I have some of thouse:naughty:
Sounds cool! Got pics or good descriptions? Mine just look like this:
woodlice.jpg
 
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