Armatus Payara eye problem

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My poor fish has a serius problem with his eye, it's all popped out and is red.
I read a couple of threads about not using meds in a payara, but is so serius that today i used Myxazin.
Last night i put him in a quarantine tank with some feeders, Melafix and salt, but things look very serius to completly loose his aye or even die.
The good on the case is that he ate during the night, cause the hole month i'm starving him trying to make him eat frozen.
Advice needen emediate.
Sorry for the bad pics.
Thanks.

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kwstas_original said:
Another Payara, GATF, TSN, Juriensis catfish, 2xCichla Piquiti, Cichla Ocellaris, polypterus ornatipinis.
All fish are below 10".
Tank 78x20x27, 2x eheim 2260 on filtration, last water change about 10-15 days ago.
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Last waterchange 10 to 15 days ago?? There's your problem. Payara need prestine water conditions to thrive. Also feeders are prone to disease and offer little to no nutritional value, but your trying to convert to frozen or dead foods which is good. Do daily waterchanges in his hospital tank (how many gal by the way) of at LEAST 25%, more is better. Salt (start with 1 tbsp per 10gal) and bump up the temp to 80+.

Armatus are known to be skittish in smaller tanks, which could add to his stress level and prolong recovery. It doesn't look to be a contagious disease, so I would put him back into the main tank in my opinion with salt. Start with half does of salt I mentiond above for the main tank and take it from there.

On a side note, you seriously need to practice better tank maintainence, with a stock list like that you should be doing 50% waterchanges once a week. On my tanks I do about 33% every 5 days max. But I'm anal about keeping my tanks clean and presentable and I havnt had any health problems in years!

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When I first got my armatus he had a damaged eye from shipping. His tank was already set to 80 so all I did was add salt and he cleared up fine within a few days.

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Slippery K said:
Last waterchange 10 to 15 days ago?? There's your problem. Payara need prestine water conditions to thrive. Also feeders are prone to disease and offer little to no nutritional value, but your trying to convert to frozen or dead foods which is good. Do daily waterchanges in his hospital tank (how many gal by the way) of at LEAST 25%, more is better. Salt (start with 1 tbsp per 10gal) and bump up the temp to 80+.

Armatus are known to be skittish in smaller tanks, which could add to his stress level and prolong recovery. It doesn't look to be a contagious disease, so I would put him back into the main tank in my opinion with salt. Start with half does of salt I mentiond above for the main tank and take it from there.

On a side note, you seriously need to practice better tank maintainence, with a stock list like that you should be doing 30% waterchanges once a week. On my tanks I do about 33% every 5 days max. But I'm anal about keeping my tanks clean and presentable and I havnt had any health problems in years!

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I'm doing 50% water change every time, so 10-15 days for this tank with super extra filtration, small fish and not much food, i think is fine.
My feeders are quaranting now for about a month.
Thats why i'm trying for non live, i made it with my other payara.
The quarantine tank is 20 gallons and the main 130.
Temp is at 80-82.

What about some medicents?

Thanks for helping.
 
A 20 gal for an armatus is too small, even for a hospital tank. And 15 days is still too long even for 50% waterchanges. Do 50% every 7 days. For meds, I only use salt as iv havnt had health issues that require meds in years. So I don't really have a comment on chemical medication. Natural way is alaways best with such sensitive fish.

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If your having trouble breaking them off live, use your 20 to breed live foods. Much safer than having to quarenteen every new batch of feeders.

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I mostly change my water every week in all my tanks 50%.
Is one of the few times that i didn't had much time to do it, and now this happend...
So you think is a bad water quality problem?
Not a fight with a tankmate?
Cause that was my first thought...
 
Eye problems are usualy one of the first signs of poor water quality. If it was a tankmate, there would probably be more physical damage/trauma.

Keep the water prestine and he will be fine.

Edit: I just zoomed in on your pics. It appears to be behind the eye and not the actual eyeball itself. So I don't think it was caused by a tankmate, but that's just from what I see in the pics you provided.

But its seriously late where I am and need to try and sleep (I have sleep disorders), but I will check back on this thread when I can tomorrow. Best of luck to you, I hope everything works out ok for you.

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