Asian aro in a news article- :(

[Caveden]

Fried goldfish then? Siuuuuuuuu

 

[Kingster]

I find it pretty stupid that this woman would cook an expensive fish like this, and disturbing that she would be so petty as to do it just to spite her husband. Him laughing about it? Not sure how to respond to that; sounds like they make a perfect couple. Being together, they save two other lucky people from being miserable.

But, the idea that it's okay to eat a pacu...or maybe a tilapia...but not this particular fish seems completely hypocritical. Why is this fish's life worth more than that of another fish? Because you can't legally have one of these? Because you can't afford one? Because it's Asian? (That one really puzzles me...}

It's a fish. People eat fish all the time. If a person who keeps fish in a tank feels that eating fish is abhorrent because of some special connection they have, it might be possible to see some weird sort of logic to that...although that would be analogous to a dog-owner refusing to eat the flesh of any mammal. My father would have laughingly referred to that as a "harmless nut-case".

For the life of me, I can't understand the thought process behind this reaction.

Its illegal over in murica due to its small wild population, which opening the American market would lead to large amounts of wild stocks being poached to fill the black market. But here someone in another country is eating one, when I whole point of monitoring of the species is to keep as many alive and healthy as possible

 

[Krismo962]

Its illegal over in murica due to its small wild population, which opening the American market would lead to large amounts of wild stocks being poached to fill the black market. But here someone in another country is eating one, when I whole point of monitoring of the species is to keep as many alive and healthy as possible

'small wild population'? Where exactly is this small wild population of asian aros in the US? With the density of asian aro farms in South East (unlicensed or not) why would someone want to catch wild aros to sell.

 

[jjohnwm]

Its illegal over in murica due to its small wild population, which opening the American market would lead to large amounts of wild stocks being poached to fill the black market. But here someone in another country is eating one, when I whole point of monitoring of the species is to keep as many alive and healthy as possible

There may or may not be a "black market" now in the U.S., since that would be the only source for these fish there. Here in Canada, Asian aros are legal and so of course there is no black market for them. Banning something is the surest way to create a black market; allowing a legal trade pretty much destroys any incentive for such illegal action.

And the "monitoring" or legal protection granted a species...which is largely politically motivated...is at least based upon a desire to protect the species, which is a very different thing than keeping "as many alive and healthy as possible". Living creatures are not cans of beans or crates of machine parts; they cannot be stockpiled as commodities. The goal is to preserve the species as a whole, not the individual fish. The world today is not the natural Eden that it once was; if an animal species is to survive, it must have value...either as food, as a pet, a hunting trophy, a tourist attraction, whatever. If you think that a legal ban on possession or killing an animal is the simplistic correct path towards protecting a species, then it's a good thing that you are not in a position to make these decisions.

 

[Caveden]

Its illegal over in murica due to its small wild population, which opening the American market would lead to large amounts of wild stocks being poached to fill the black market. But here someone in another country is eating one, when I whole point of monitoring of the species is to keep as many alive and healthy as possible

Wut i don’t even think there’s wild Asian arowanas in US LOL

 

[Kingster]

'small wild population'? Where exactly is this small wild population of asian aros in the US? With the density of asian aro farms in South East (unlicensed or not) why would someone want to catch wild aros to sell.

Its the wild population in its native region. People will see the demand and its always cheaper to do stuff illegally then legally, why invest in a legal breeding stock and starting a farm when you can take from the wild and make 100% profit

 

[Kingster]

Wut i don’t even think there’s wild Asian arowanas in US LOL

I mean there is demand, I know of a few LFS caught illegally American’s who came over to buy Asian Aros and tried crossing the border or crossing the border to sell Asian Arowana’s to American’s.

Iam sure America is more then capable of policing the legal supply, import, export, and distribution of Asian Arowana, it would probably come down to state wouldn’t it?

Tho banning a certain product encourages a black market for that product, but saying to ban a product is wrong regardless of whatever reason it is banned for, because it causes a black market demand means that banning anything is useless and that everything should be legally obtainable and hope no product is misused in the process.

 

[jjohnwm]

...banning a certain product encourages a black market for that product, but saying to ban a product is wrong regardless of whatever reason it is banned for, because it causes a black market demand means that banning anything is useless and that everything should be legally obtainable and hope no product is misused in the process...

Saying that would indeed be wrong; but who has said that? If you are implying that I stated that, sorry, but no. Your inaccurate and short-sighted comment was:

...whole point of monitoring of the species is to keep as many alive and healthy as possible...

I disagreed:

...The goal is to preserve the species as a whole, not the individual fish...if you think that a legal ban on possession or killing an animal is the simplistic correct path towards protecting a species, then it's a good thing that you are not in a position to make these decisions...

My comment was that your "solution" is far too simplistic to possibly be the answer. Legal protection, controls, a ban on wild collection, proof required that an animal being sold was captive-bred by legal producers...some combination of these might very well result in actual "protection" of a species, as opposed to being merely a feel-good knee-jerk "reaction" that produces no lasting or positive results.