OK...so I vote for starting an Asian Arowana farm here in the U.S....in Nevada (cuz that's where I'm at)! Get a team together, breed them and then release them back into the wild in Asia. I'm down for it...now, who has the money to fund this project............?
Asian Aro Permit
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Chaitika;4375801; said:
Yet there are members that post pictures of fish that are illegal in their states and parade those around, but for a joking statement you threaten an infraction...
OP: sorry for derailing your thread, i wish i could have an asian arowana. I tried and failed.
manlyfish;4375812; said:
Not rude at all.
I don't know if this exact question has been answered. Has anyone tried to get the permits required? I've yet to see anyone say they have in fact tried. I see a lot of supposing and guessing.
Any individual can submit an application for possession of an asian aro. You just have to be willing to meet the demands of caring for a species on the Endangered Species List.
First, pay the license application fee which can be anywhere from $50 to $580 depending on the number of F&W reps you speak with. Then, submit yourself to an inspection of the 'ready-to-run' holding facility prior to licensing consideration. You pay for this inspection, too. And, get used to them. If approved, you'll be subject to announced and unannounced facility inspections throughout the year your license is valid. That's right, you have to renew the license annually. And, ...the cost of the inspections will be on you as well.
Again, depending on the agent you speak with, the license may only be considered for an individual if you are in a graduate program conducting studies involving the species you're applying to maintain. The nature of the research must be made available along with backing documantation from an accredited institution.
Here's the best part. If you are fortunate enough to be approved for licensing to keep asian aros, you may NOT breed them for personal monetary gain. In fact, any type of transfer of live fish or viable eggs to unlicensed US citizens constitutes a felony. Shipping or carrying across state lines carries a felony smuggling/trafficing charge. Back to breeding for a moment. Any young produced are required to be chipped and fry count records (along with individual chip registrations) must have documents submitted to the licensing authority.
And finally, no surprise here, any actual or suspected illegal activity will result in automatic loss of license and confiscation of all specimens. The fish will be impounded for the duration of an investigation. The department-appointed care facility can get approval to charge the owner for the cost of care of the animals while refusing any responsibility towards any loss of specimens while in their care.
Since absolutely no one has been approved for this license, the laws are all up for interpretation by individual bureaus and agents. You won't get the same answers from any 2 agents. Above is just a rundown of the gist or average responses I've been able to ascertain along with the responses that have been shared with me by others that have looked into the red tape of possibly being able to keep these fish in the US.
First, pay the license application fee which can be anywhere from $50 to $580 depending on the number of F&W reps you speak with. Then, submit yourself to an inspection of the 'ready-to-run' holding facility prior to licensing consideration. You pay for this inspection, too. And, get used to them. If approved, you'll be subject to announced and unannounced facility inspections throughout the year your license is valid. That's right, you have to renew the license annually. And, ...the cost of the inspections will be on you as well.
Again, depending on the agent you speak with, the license may only be considered for an individual if you are in a graduate program conducting studies involving the species you're applying to maintain. The nature of the research must be made available along with backing documantation from an accredited institution.
Here's the best part. If you are fortunate enough to be approved for licensing to keep asian aros, you may NOT breed them for personal monetary gain. In fact, any type of transfer of live fish or viable eggs to unlicensed US citizens constitutes a felony. Shipping or carrying across state lines carries a felony smuggling/trafficing charge. Back to breeding for a moment. Any young produced are required to be chipped and fry count records (along with individual chip registrations) must have documents submitted to the licensing authority.
And finally, no surprise here, any actual or suspected illegal activity will result in automatic loss of license and confiscation of all specimens. The fish will be impounded for the duration of an investigation. The department-appointed care facility can get approval to charge the owner for the cost of care of the animals while refusing any responsibility towards any loss of specimens while in their care.
Since absolutely no one has been approved for this license, the laws are all up for interpretation by individual bureaus and agents. You won't get the same answers from any 2 agents. Above is just a rundown of the gist or average responses I've been able to ascertain along with the responses that have been shared with me by others that have looked into the red tape of possibly being able to keep these fish in the US.
If an average user had posted that I'd have asked where they had copied and pasted it fromOddball;4375864; said:
Like I said and taking no credit away from oddball. USA is so strict it's not worth it on the cites list.
Oddball;4375864; said:
you're the man, i knew you would come through with a decent post. thanks for your time.
Also.... big thanks to Chaitika for keeping the thread on point. I'm glad this thread got some love and a little heated exchange. Oddball was a worthy closer id say.
so you wanted oddball to repeat what he's said in countless threads until you felt satisfied?????nmadsen4;4375937;4375937 said:
