Asian Arowana Redesignation, and Its effect on the US hobby.

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wizzin;651303;651303 said:
more from the USFWS:
That would be really nice, but it will not be for a simple aquarium display. You will have to be actively breeding these fish, to release into the wild.
 
The redesignation would never have any effect what so ever on there availability in the US. I dont know what the taxo. difference of the fish are, but i'm suprised they split it up, unless it's for something more than mere colour.
 
WyldFya;651318; said:
That would be really nice, but it will not be for a simple aquarium display. You will have to be actively breeding these fish, to release into the wild.

I understand what you are saying about the species split, but I'm not sure that's how it would be handled from an IUCN, ESA, CITES standpoint. I think, as they do now, they'll continue to refer to the species as formosus, whether the scientific community has split that or not.

As for "you will have to be actively breeding these fish to release into the wild"????? Where did you read that? I don't see that anywhere.

It says:

As one of the world’s largest importers of aquarium fish, the United States could play a significant role in encouraging conservation of the Asian bonytongue through the issuance
of permits

not "but you have to release them to the wild"!

I have to stress that the USFWS DOES NOT WANT RESTOCKING OF WILD ANIMALS WITH FARM RAISED FISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a BAD idea! Do you think dumping a bunch of super reds in with a group of natural greens is going to help the species? The fish that have been line bred for color are not good for the wild. Plus theres disease, etc. etc. etc.

IF there was a wild restocking it would be with a "seed" of wild caught fish, and breeding would strive to maintain their wildness, not their colors etc.
 
Also, lifting the ban on American imports would easily tripple the demand for these fish. In all likelyhood, someone out there would start poaching wild caught for sale in the USA. And I think we can all agree that they'd sell. Right up till the rivers ran dry and the species went extinct in the wild.

Google "patagonian toothfish" if you want to see what I mean about how re-designating a species causes poaching and massive wild population decline.
 
OSH;651874; said:
Also, lifting the ban on American imports would easily tripple the demand for these fish. In all likelyhood, someone out there would start poaching wild caught for sale in the USA. And I think we can all agree that they'd sell. Right up till the rivers ran dry and the species went extinct in the wild.

Google "patagonian toothfish" if you want to see what I mean about how re-designating a species causes poaching and massive wild population decline.

Quite true, however, part of the criteria for allowing them here would be conservation efforts (conservation doesn't mean re-stocking) in the way of habitat conservation, poaching control/patrols etc. which should reduce the poaching.

More importantly, though, is that by allowing them here, it would mean they could be raised here as well, adding one more source for the fish to reduce their cost, and add to their numbers. That's more important to me than keeping one myself actually. The more places they are legal, the more places they exist and can be raised. Captive breeding has prevented the extinction of countless species.
 
What if they start breeding them in large numbers and some fish farm decides that a "Jelly Bean" Arowana or "Red Parrot" Arowana would be nice to sell. I would hate to see what would happen to this majestic fish. Imagine a red Asian Arowana with the mouth of a African Arowana and a body like a goldfish. What are they genetically compatible with? Could DNA of CK's and Arowana be combined. Scientific manipulation of embryonic DNA with different species could really produce some freaks. I would like to see more of them bred in captivity without depleting the wild stocks and no mixing of captive stock with wild. To insure that the wild type DNA is preserved in the captive breds; the farmer would have to prevent inbreeding and make sure a wild caught father or mother was present.
 
Chris,
I commend your dedication and passion for these wonderful animals. It's people like you actually doing something and writing the letters that really will make a difference. Thanks for sharing and educating.
 
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