Atabapo Fire, Tapajos Red and Cobra

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The true red variant of Crenicichla cincta is a seriously beautiful pike, the contrasts of the bands and red coloration is very breathtaking. There are some variants of lugubris pikes, rio madria or whateva, that is awesome lookin as well, but its not completely red.

Your best shot for gettin a pike that has the most red coloration for BOTH sexs would definately be your tapajos reds, red tapajos, tapajo I...whateva you wanna call them. Male and female BOTH show the bright red adult coloration, and its their ENTIRE body.

In sp. 'cobra' its only the female that shows the awesome full body adult coloration, males are considerably less showy, although they are still pretty attractive. It all depends on where they are collected from as well, as some cobras just never get as intense of a red coloration as other collected from different areas.

Atabapo pikes are still my fav, especially the true sp. 'atabapo fire'. They are harder to come by, and can be a pain in the butt to keep if your not careful. I've never lost pikes before, but I have lost BOTH sets of my Crenicichla sp. 'atabapo fire', so you gotta know what you are doing, and even then it can be difficult. I know they can be kept, you just gotta watch it, they are very sensative to water changes and ammonia and nitrites as well as nitrates. Touchy pikes..haha.

sp. lugubris cf. atabapo I haven't seen a full adult pictures of both sexs, but they are showing lots of potential. Not many people have them, especially as adults, so pictures are few and far between. Practically all atabapo species of pikes are gonna have some red in them, whether or not its in both male and female is unknown to me although I will find out some day...;).

Your best bet for gettin pikes that show the most red coloration, and still lookin intense, would be Crenicichla sp. 'tapajos I'....just can't beat a male and female red pike...;)
 
I have (2) Crenicichla sp. ‘Red Atabapo’ for 2 weeks now, I am feeding them live gold fish but the (2) pike just chase/ follow them around:confused:. Just wondering if this is normal behavior for pike cichlid?

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Thanks for all your replies! Since I'm after red pikes, I'll be getting the Tapajos Red (Tapajos I). Are they easy to comeby or are they quite rare? Any idea how much a 5 to 6 inch specimen would cost? How big do they get - as big as the cobras?

Thanks guys!
 
Anton;575861; said:
Thanks for all your replies! Since I'm after red pikes, I'll be getting the Tapajos Red (Tapajos I). Are they easy to comeby or are they quite rare? Any idea how much a 5 to 6 inch specimen would cost? How big do they get - as big as the cobras?

Thanks guys!

They get around the same size as the cobra's and Jeff has them from time to time but i don't see any on his list at the moment. You could just check in with him and see if he's getting any in the near future. I paid $100 for 1 female that was around 7 inches. I would think you'd be able to pick up some small ones at around $25-50 a pop, just depends on where you get them. I love mine. She's a real looker.
 
Anton;577435; said:
driftwood, you only got a female? You didn't opt to get a pair?

i could have gotten a pair but decided against it. The females are prettier and besides I've never heard of anyone being able to breed them. Even if you get a male and female the chances of them accually pairing off are slim if you ask me. If i get any other Pikes I'll be getting all females. Anton, if you do end up getting the Red Tabajos from jeff and want a pair you really should get at least 6 so the pair can form on there own. You can't force them to form a pair.
 
driftwood-do you think the females are much prettier? The pics I've seen of the Tapajos the males seem pretty close. Mt. Pike you have both right-any thoughts on the tapajos gender issue?
 
I'd have to say that with the Red Tabajos the difference is not all that noticable. I personally don't like all the aggression that 2 pikes bring to a community tank when they start to get the hots for one another. I just prefer the females over the males. Normally the females are more colorful than the males with most pikes but the Red tabajos are very similar. I think the females have a little more color than the males but not much. Both are very red.
 
Thanks driftwood. That's how it looked to me-the females a little bit more intense and a little more on the belly-but not much. Thanks for clarifying.
 
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