Atabapo Orino thread

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So what do you have to say? Lol. Curious to hear your thoughts on it since there are quite a few out there now


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Let's just say vens, Columbia, and Amazon (lower river) orinos looks completely different at all sizes. The only orino I have never owned was a lower Rio negro orino.

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Hi Mark, good to see you out and about. You're a very knowledgeable fish keeper and a great vendor and I guarantee you know much more than I on collection points and SA and so on. But this is not what I'm seeing in my research. This is what I see, They connect near the Rio Guaviare and the town of San Fernando de Atabapo in which the river was named after. When the Ventuari flows east into the Orinoco as you said, it in reality connects to the Atababo which flows North splitting the two countries of Columbia and Venezuela and eventually becoming the Orinoco. You are correct in saying they are both tributaries of the Orinoco, not of each other. please checkout San Fernando de Atabapo on a map and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atabapo_River. Please enlighten me.

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So is this a common bass in terms of looks? Are there differences in the rivers systems even though they are relatively close in location?


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I've notice that each country of the three mentioned in my post produce three variants of orinos. But, I'm REALLY picky about my bass.

I'm not on my computer, so I can't give you the three "typical" types of orinos from the three countries. But, jcardona did a great thread about orinos.

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Hi Mark, good to see you out and about. You're a very knowledgeable fish keeper and a great vendor and I guarantee you know much more than I on collection points and SA and so on. But this is not what I'm seeing in my research. This is what I see, They connect near the Rio Guaviare and the town of San Fernando de Atabapo in which the river was named after. When the Ventuari flows east into the Orinoco as you said, it in reality connects to the Atababo which flows North splitting the two countries of Columbia and Venezuela and eventually becoming the Orinoco. You are correct in saying they are both tributaries of the Orinoco, not of each other. please checkout San Fernando de Atabapo on a map and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atabapo_River. Please enlighten me.

All in the fun of learning!!:)

LOL I can't confirm that I know much more....can just pass down information from my suppliers who are there collecting the fish. You need to get a map that you can zoom in more on the details. Rio Guaviare from the west connects to Rio Atabapo from the south to form the beginning of Rio Orinoco. It is about one mile north of that before Rio Ventuari connects to Rio Orinoco from the east. There is no connection whatsoever with Atabapo and Ventuari, as Guaviare and Ventuari are actually closer together. The Atabapo flows north, Ventuari flows west....a fish would have to swim into the Orinoco from either river and then against the current to reach the other. Ventuari is fast flowing white water with rapids for many parts, kind of like what you would go down for white water rafting. It would take a lot of work for a bass from Atabapo to swim against the rapids many kilometers to reach a not so fast flowing area of the Ventuari river.

What my Colombian supplier tells me in this small 1 mile area where the 3 rivers connect its a wide waterway almost a mile wide with white water and black water coming together in a turbulent mess, there are no fish collection in that area because its too deep and not a lot of fish are found there. You have to go down the Atabapo several kilometers to start finding fish close to the banks. Also the Ventuari bass I received came from fishermen on the Venezuelan side that caught these fish above the rapids which would place them at least 8 miles away from the Orinoco. That is a lot of swimming against the current through rapids for a bass wouldn't you think?

If anything, I would say that an Atabapo orino would more closely to appear like an Guaviare, Inirida, or northern Orinoco bass as they could all flow down the same way and end up in the Orinoco.

Ok whew....made me use my brain, I don't like you as much now ;) lol
 
My old orino.....guess from where it was collected from.

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