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MarineMike said:
Does this occur by chance random mutation, or recessive gene? Could you end up with one by being normal jags and if so, at what size would you be able to tell?
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I think I read that wrong first time 'round.
The answer must be no, as Jeff said, "I introduced that color morph to the market.." So no, not in the wild but through selective breeding.

What can be done with selective breeding (aka artificial selection) is pretty mind-boggling.
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winston.smith said:
I think I read that wrong first time 'round.
The answer must be no, as Jeff said, "I introduced that color morph to the market.." So no, not in the wild but through selective breeding.

What can be done with selective breeding (aka artificial selection) is pretty mind-toggling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hGMg8OiOPY
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Did Jeff mistake this for the gold morph? I know he had the golds years ago and then lost them. I have the gold strain. This is my female at 6" about 6 months ago.


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Really good info. Was this a response from him recently?

winston.smith said:
on this question: Yes. i think.

Reply from Jeff Rapps :
'I used to work with them many (15-20) years ago and introduced that color morph to the global market.
They were all but lost in the trade. But I have a male again and bred him to wild female. Currently raising their juves up to breed back to him. '

So looks like Jeff will be the man to talk to when he is ready with them.


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winston.smith said:
on this question: Yes. i think.

Reply from Jeff Rapps :
'I used to work with them many (15-20) years ago and introduced that color morph to the global market.
They were all but lost in the trade. But I have a male again and bred him to wild female. Currently raising their juves up to breed back to him. '

So looks like Jeff will be the man to talk to when he is ready with them.


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Mr Jeff Rapps wrote a short article in the 1996 July issue of cichlid news on what was then called Cichlasoma (Nandopsis) Managuense "Gold"....,,, he had a pair which he stated in his exact words from the article were' "second-generation" gold derived from gold individuals who parents were normally colored.'.. 'Spawns derived from gold parents display variability in both the intensity of the gold pigmentation and that of the brown and black markings adorning the body and fins'..... so as stated similar to what he did in the past he is now breeding his gold male to the normal wild female and then planning on breeding the male to gold females that result to create the fixed strain..... He also mentioned in the article that the fry are solid pale yellow until they are 1 inch and made a comparison to other species which morph into bright colors but at a larger size in development... in the case of the Jags stated... 'would seem to limit chances for survival in the wild as they would be especially conspicuous to predators'.....
Here are pics from the article....

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